May 29, 2025

The Lynching of Josefa

The Lynching of Josefa
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The Lynching of Josefa took place on July 5, 1851 in Downieville, California in Sierra county. Throughout history, she has gone unnamed, her name has been changed or only a first name was ever provided. Her name was Josefa Loaiza, as time went on, her name became only Juanita. She was the first and only Mexican woman lynched in California

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This episode was edited byBex Carlos&Alex Rogpe


Sources

The Injustice Never Leaves You: Anti-Mexican Violence in Texas by Monica Munoz Martinez
Unspeakable Violence: Remapping U.S. and Mexican National Imaginaries (Latin America Otherwise)
Forgotten Dead: Mob Violence against Mexicans in the United States, 1848-1928

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Hi everyone. This is Carman and Christina and this is

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Estadias Unknown, a podcast where we talk about Latin American history.

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Is sometimes deterrible and deals with heavy topics like racism, corruption,

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and genocide. But more than that, it's also about resistance,

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power and community. And this is part two of a

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mini series I'm doing on the history of lynchings or

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mob violence on Mexicans in the US. In part one,

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I talked about the conditions in which Mexicans found themselves

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faced with mob violence in the name of frontier justice.

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Mexicans were often lynched for thefts, land disputes and racial

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prejudice or like xenophobic reasons. Yeah, and I share some

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examples of mob violence in California. In this episode, I

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want to talk about one specific case that made history,

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as she was the first and only Mexican women lynched

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in California. And throughout history she has gone unnamed, her

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name has been changed or only a first name is

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ever given to her. But her name was Josefa Loaisa,

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and for some reason, as time went on, she became Juanita.

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The lynching of Hosefa took place on July fifth, eighteen

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fifty one, in Downeyville, California, in Sierra County. It's located,

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it's still there. It's located on Highway forty nine across

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the Yuba River and Downey River. And for that reason,

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it was called the Forks at one point because it

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was like where the fork of these two rivers meet.

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And unlike many former mining towns, Downeyville is still there

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with a population of two hundred and ninety. It's like

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an unincorporated like you know those ones community. Yeah, like small,

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very small, like a lot of these former mining towns

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that are still there are like they're not big. Yeah.

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And as you can tell from the date of the lynching,

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the day before that was one of celebration aka Independence Day,

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but it also marked the one year anniversary of California

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joining the Union, and the festivities turned violent. After Governor

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John B. Weller gave a speech, the crowd erupted in

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a drunken celebration that turned into a riot that went

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on until the next morning. And maybe because of all

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that was already happening, on the night of July fourth,

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John Cannon felt inspired or moved or something to do

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whatever he did next. No, No, he was drinking with a

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group of men and then they were, like, I don't know,

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being drunk together and just loud and violent. And he

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decided that he was going to go to a shack,

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and these men followed him to this small shack. In

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the shack, Josefa was asleep in her house. She heard

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a loud bang. John Cannon had torn the door off

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a shack and he let himself in. He picked up

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her scarf that was on the floor, planning to use

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it to subdue her. Probably, oh my god, yeah, yeah.

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Her husband happened to be home that night, so jose

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and Josefa yelled at the man. They were like arguing,

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and he left. But it seems that this is something

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he might have done regularly, like break her door down

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and assault her. Really, yes, though this has never been confirmed,

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that's like the likely situation there. I think it makes

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sense because how did he like nowhere to go? Yeah,

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like why did that specific shot come to mind right

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away when he was drunk and rowdy and violent. The

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next morning, on the fifth, John Cannon returned to the

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house to apologize for what he had done the night before,

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but this didn't go well. Jose Josepha's partner was there,

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and he was demanding John Cannon pay for the damages

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to the door, as he should, right, And then jose

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and Josepha turned to each other to speak in Spanish

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to each other, and this just made John Cannon lose

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a shit? Is there right? Right? But he got angry

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red and angry with Red talking about me. Even if

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they were like he broke down their door. Yeah for real,

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they're probably like thinking about how much she should turn.

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Right.

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He called Uta a who and in response, with zero hesitation,

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she grabbed a knife and stabbed them in the chest.

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I stand, was she wrong? No? No? No? He died instantly.

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Jossein Josepha fled to a local saloon, where they were

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caught by a lynch mob. They were taken to the

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town plaza and this mob wanted to lynch both of

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them on the spot. And you know, the racism it

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was high that day. They had just been celebrating Marca

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the night before. Oh yeah, thirst for violence against anyone?

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Not why?

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It was off the charts. And I'm like, Okay, I

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understand stabbing someone is technically wrong, but where is the

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outrage for him breaking into some random shacks, supposedly random?

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Although he probably was trying to and there, Yeah, there's

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a lot of speculation that he was used to doing

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this to her. Yeah, so like where is the outrage then,

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Like these people were only basically defending themselves exactly. And

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so two men tried to step up and defend Jossein Josefa.

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One was doctor Aiken, who was like, no, you can't

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lynch her because she's pregnant. Oh my. The mob beat

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him up and threatened the other man who tried to

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defend her, and they were like, we'll kill anyone who

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steps up to defend her, like that was your warning, thirsty,

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thirsty for blood. Yes, some of the mob created a

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committee to supposedly try Josepha dumb and I say supposedly

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because like people try to claim she was not lynched

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because she had a trial, but a trial farmed by

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a mob ready to kill you was hardly it's hardly.

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Just yeah, that was not a jury of her peters,

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because these were angry white men who wanted to attack

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her from the get Yes, so you know, they had

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a supposed trial. They brought four witnesses who were all

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friends with John Cannon. Again, not just no, jose was

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allowed to say some words. Josefa was allowed to say

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less words his friends. John Cannon's friends testified that from

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the moment John returned to their house, the women looked

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angry and determined, and she had the eyes of the devil.

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Of course, he shouldn't even gone back, even if he

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was trying to apologize. Just stay the fuck away from her,

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Get away from her, get a job. Yes, and jose testified.

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So I'm going to read his testimony as it was

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in the book that I read, the deceased. And so

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John Cannon, the diseased, in company with several others, broke

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down the door to my room. On meeting the disease

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in the morning and asking him for payment, he used

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insulting language, called me a liar and a son of

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a bitch. He then drew back his fist as if

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to strike me, when I stated to him that I

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did not wish to fight. He was large and I

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a small man. At this time, Josefa came forward and

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told him to strike her. She was also insulted. He

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called her deer and then after that a whore. She

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went into the house and my solicitation. When in she

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took a knife from the table and as a disease

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was about to enter, still calling her bad names both

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in English and Spanish. She stamped him. Only one hinge

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of the door was broken. The top one had been

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previously broken, alluding to previous incidents. Right. Yes, the door

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was fastened with two staples, one of which was pulled

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out when Forcibly entered. That's all he was allowed to say. Again,

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Hosefa was allowed to say less. So she said, I

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took the knife to defend myself. I had been told

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that some of the boys wanted to get into my

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room and sleep with me. A Mexican boy told me so,

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and it frightened me so that I used to fasten

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the door and take a knife with me to bed.

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I told the the seas that was no place to

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call me bad names. Come in and call me so,

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And as he was coming in, I stabbed him. That

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sounds like self defense. She's over here calling her put

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on her own fucking house. And she was like, well,

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come in and tell me, And he did come in,

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So I don't know. I don't know about this. Yeah,

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free her. I'm gonna side it no matter what. Yes.

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In the documentation of the court proceedings, all the witnesses

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and the supposed jury. They were all named fully like

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first and last name, except for Hossein Josefa. Oh my god,

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Moselle was just hose Of course, Josefa wasn't even named.

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She was just written down as the defendant. That's it.

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It didn't take long for this quote jury to make

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their decision. They declared her guilty in just a few minutes.

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Of course it didn't. Yeah, and one could argue that

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they already knew what they were going to do. Yeah,

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one could very much argue that. Yeah, they told Hosefha

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she would be lynched and took her to Jersey Bridge.

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By the time she was at the bridge, the crowd

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grew to three thousand. Josefa climbed onto the scaffold, moved

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her long black hair out of the way, placed the

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rope around her neck herself. When she was asked if

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she had any last words, she replied, nothing, but I

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would do the same if I was so provoked. Honestly,

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I'm a fan of her, I love her. I know

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she's so real for that. Yeah. Then before she walked

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out to the plank, she turned to the mob and

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said adios senores. Wow, queen. She stood there calmly until

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the plank was pulled out from under her. The crowd

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yelled and cheered as she felled, and they left her

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like just dangling there for thirty minutes. Then they removed

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her and buried her with John Cannon in the same grave.

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Now why would they do that? I don't know. I

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have no idea. What about jose Oh, they threatened him

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to if he was still in town in twenty four hours,

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they would lynch him and he had to flee for

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his safety. Wow. Did I really not write that down? Yeah,

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that's what happened to him. Wow. Also, I want to

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know that the governor was part of the mob and

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he was pandering for votes during all of it. Of course. Yeah.

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And Josefa and John Cannon were buried in the same

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grave until they were the coup years later. So that

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a theater. That's disgusting, it is It is so offensive.

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This is the man that like accosted her and forced

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her to stab him, and they're going to go bury

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them for supposedly in eternity in the same grave.

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That's disgusting. It reminds me of Hugh Hefner wanted to

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be buried in the same grave Marilyn Monroe. Yes, even

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though like he had no right, like nothing, yeah, to

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be able to do that. And then they were only

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removed from that grave so that a theater could be

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put there. Like, wow, that's insulton injury. Yeah. And although

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she basically disappeared from history after the lynching, at the time,

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it must have been well known because even Frederick Douglass

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commented on it. Really, yes, he wrote that if jose

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Loaisa had been white, she would not have faced the

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same fate, and that she was lynched because of her

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cast and her Mexican blood. Yeah, he's right, he is right.

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Her lynching is unique for a lot of reasons, including

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that it's one of the only ones that are marked

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with a historical marker, which you can still find today

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in Downeyville. Really, but the marker says Kwanita, doesn't say Josepha. Wow,

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Like I don't understand what her name changed. I feel

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like that also had to be racist. I don't know, right, like, oh,

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you know what, Juanita sounds more cute, and we want

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her to sound like taken away her agency almost. I

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feel maybe I don't know, there's something there that I'm

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not quite like, I don't know how to say it. Grasping. Yeah, yeah,

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like we don't know the reason, but it feels racism

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and sexist. Yes, right, thank you. Yeah. Another unique aspect

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of it all is that at the time and before

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the lynching, like basically no one knew of her except

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the people that were friends with her. But like she

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didn't matter to any one until she did this. That's

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saying something too h So much could be said about that.

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The first mayor of Downeyville, William Downey, has a chapter

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about her lynching and his memoir what and he titled

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it Lynching a Beauty. Oh, I've heard of this. Disgusting,

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absolutely disgusting. Yeah. In the chapter, he says that her

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name was Juanita, even though it wasn't. Maybe that's where

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it came from. Oh, you know what, maybe he was

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the first to change it. Of course he got her

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name wrong, right, Like, that doesn't matter, Juanita, they're the

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same thing. He's like, every Mexican guy knows na juan

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Therefore a Mexican woman would be Kuanita. Yeah, something I

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honestly can't figure out. But he wrote that her name

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was Juanita and her husband's name was unknown even though

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it was and if it weren't for the lynching, Juanita

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would also have been unknown. And again it's not confirmed

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if he was the first one to change her name,

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but that's what she became known as, Juanita of Downeyville. Wow.

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And whenever you see this in any books that are

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not by people that are directly speaking about this in

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a racial lens, authors never gave her a last name.

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They claimed she was an unmarried sex worker and that

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justified this. Oh my god, she had a whole husband. Yeah.

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And it wasn't until very recently that her last name

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was discovered to be Loaisa. And that is because in

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eighteen sixty eight, seventeen years after her lynching, her husband

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Jose Maria Luisa, attempted to file a claim with the

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US and Mexico Claims Commission. This commission came to be

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after the Treaty of Vidalgo to set up claims by

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citizens of the United States and Mexico for losses suffered

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due to the acts of one government against nationals, with

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the other oh basically to handle. It was a lot

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of land disputes, is what happened, and so he asked

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this commission. He was asking for three thousand dollars for

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the lynching of his wife and for his banishment, which

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at the time would have been like one hundred fifty

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thousand dollars Today, I think you should ask for more. Yeah. Really,

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his claim was ignored until eighteen seventy five. When did

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he first filed the claim eighteen sixty eight. Okay, a

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whole twenty five years after her lynching, and his claim

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was the number nine hundred and four out of nine

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hundred and ninety eight. Wow, eight hundred thirty one of

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these claims were all declined and only one hundred so

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many of them. Yeah, only one hundred sixty seven were

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ever approved, and one hundred thirty one of those one

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hundred sixty seven were often the same incident when the

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Texas Rangers went through Piedras Negras and destroyed it. Wow.

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You know that's so wild that you're bringing up the

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Texas Rangers destroying this place as negavas because recently I

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saw a comment that we got I'm not sure on

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which video because it didn't click on the comment, but

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I wonder our videos that I just saw the notification

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come in and somebody commented and don't forget what the

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Texas Rangers did to Mexicans and whatever. I don't know

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what they were talking about because it didn't click on it.

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But I mean, there's so many incidents. The most well

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known is the borband Need massacre. But yeah, the Texas

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Ranger made it like it was their thing to go

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around killing Mexicans. Like that's so gross. Like if you

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include their acts of violence toward Mexicans, the number of

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lyn jans it goes way up. And I said that

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in the first episode. Yeah, but it just like it

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shows so much that the majority of those approved claims

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were all from one incident enacted by the Texas Rangers.

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That is so wild. Yeah. And in the folk tales

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that keep her story alive, her name is sometimes Juanita,

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sometimes just the Mexican woman, sometimes the Spanish American woman,

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other times Greaser. Wow. When the Daily Alta, California wrote

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about her lynching on July ninth, eighteen fifty one, they said,

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we are informed by Deputy Sheriff Gray that on Saturday afternoon,

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a Spanish woman was hung for stabbing to the heart

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a man by the name of Cannon, killing him incid.

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Mister Grain formed us that the disease in the company

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with some others, had the knight previously entered the house

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of the women and created a riot and a disturbance,

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which so outraged her that when he presented himself the

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next morning to apologize for his behavior, he was met

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at the door by the female who had in her

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hand a large bowie knife, which she instantly drove into

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his heart. And the way it was written, so it's

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not explicitly said in the article, but the way they

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wrote the situation, they're blaming her for her own lynching. Yeah,

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like he broke into her house and oh my gosh,

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she was so outraged she was already at the door

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with the knife, which is not even how it happened,

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and ridiculous, such ridiculousness saying yeah. Other notable historians of

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the time did the same thing. They wrote about how

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only improper women lived in mining towns. She lived there

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with her man, Yeah, but that didn't matter to them.

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And it is documented that at the time of Josepha's lynching,

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only twelve women lived in Downeyville, and according to like

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historians or journalists of the time, they all said only

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sex workers, but obviously they didn't use that word. Yeah,

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they're the ones who lived in town. I have heard

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that too about this time. Yeah, no respectable woman lived there.

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I mean she had a man and he was working,

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and maybe she just wanted to be with him, and

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if anything, like these women were there filling a demand. Yeah.

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So at the end of the day, it's still the

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man's fault. And even if she was not a proper woman,

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that doesn't mean she should have been lynched right or

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been disturbed in her own home repeatedly by a man

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who was gonna this is the violent to her. Why

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else would he be going in the middle of the

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fucking exactly breaking into her damn house, which it was

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alluded that he had done this previously, right when she

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wasn't written in this way. Then she was sexualized, of course,

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like that guy, the mayor he said in his memoir

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The Beauty that was Lynched or whatever he wrote. Yes,

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speaking of the Mayor in his chapter Lynching a Beauty,

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he wrote the following quote. Her figure was, Oh my god, sorry,

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this is gonna piss you wat sorry before you started,

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I was going to say, let me guess as she

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went down or I don't know what the word is

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that she hung her boobs bounce like he's gonna write

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some shit like that is and he she boobly hung

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while and she died. I caught a glimpse of her

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curbs quote. Her figure was richly developed and in strict proportions.

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Her features delicate, and her olive complexion lent them a

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pleasing softness. Her black hair was nearly done up on

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state occasions, and the luster in her eyes shone in

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various degrees. Even when you're being hung, you're still being sexualized.

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This is crazy done from the soft dove like expression

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of a love sick maiden to the fierce scowl of

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an unfuriated lioness, never being in the grey Latina allegation

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that we're gone according to her temper, which was the

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only thing not well balanced about her. This is why

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I have a problem with the bicy latina stereotype. Yes, yes, yes, yes,

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but yet I like, seriously, I'm not done with her quotes.

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Oh my god. Hubert Howe Bancroft, a writer for the

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popular Tribunos, wrote the following. First of all, that name

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Hubert red Flood. Yeah, it was a little woman young

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to only twenty four, scarcely five feet in height, with

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the slender, symmetrical figure, agile and extremely graceful in her movements,

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with soft skin of olive hue, long black hair, and dark, deep,

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lustrous eyes opening again with the lustrous eyes Jesus Christ. Yeah,

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opening like a window to the faggot flames which kindled

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with love or hate. That's not what fag I meant

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at the time. I know, I know, I heard opening

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and I'm like, oh no, that's sexual shone brightly within.

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Mexico was her country, her blood Spanish diluted with the

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Aboriginal American. Her name was Juanita. It was not Quanita.

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That was her name.

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Her name was not Quanita. So confident but so wrong.

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They really love this olive skin description and the lustrous eyes.

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I am sorry, I I feel like I'm being objectified

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right now.

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In reality we are, no, but we are. And there's

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a lot to get from both of these quotes that

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is not explicitly said, but it's so there right Like,

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she was so beautiful. It was not the man she

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stabbed to death, his fault that she stabbed him. He

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felt the need to come onto her because your eyes

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are so lustrous. She was giving him lust eyes. She

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wanted it, she was asking for it. Yeah, and she's

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just that beautiful. It's her fault for being that beautiful

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and Mexican and olive skin disgusting and she should have

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let him do what he wanted to do. Oh and

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her anger, which can't be helped because she's Mexican, is

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the reason she stabbed him, her only flaw being angry

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being a spicy latina. Yep, I know we already mentioned it,

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but I wrote in my notes, Okay, and if this

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is not the literal spicy Latina trope coming into play

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in real life with terrible outcomes from the eighteen fucking

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hundreds to now when we're still being subjected to the

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spicy latina stereo time, and I hate it. I just

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can't stand I can't stand it. No me either, My

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Latina wife, like, shut the fuck up, shut the fuck up,

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shut up, just shut up up. We need to stop.

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We kept doing, y'all. We have been watching the weekend

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TikTok videos of his acting all day. But no, it

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really is disgusting. And yeah, every time it's like my

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Latina wife, oh oh, in my house. My Ltina wife

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beats me, and it's like, shut up. Joints are crazy.

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Oh they're crazy. They're gonna stab you. I'm sick of it.

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Don't install her. First of all, I'm the most chill person. Okay, no, no,

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but for real, I'm not like other girls. Huh. I'm

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not like other Latinas. No. But like, I'm tired of

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this fucking trope. I'm so tired of it. It's harmful.

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It is it is, and you know what, sorry to

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go off on a little. No, I love it here.

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But that's another thing that pissed me off so much

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when that annoying US guy on TikTok was talking about

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that movie from Dust to Dawn when Sinners came out,

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Because Dust Till Dawn is set in the wild West, right,

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and the only Mexican woman in it is san Mahayek

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and she's feeling the spicy Latina role when in real

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life she would have been lynched. Yeah. True, this is

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not a thing to celebrate. You're right. Also, her story

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appears in this old book called Love Stories of California.

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How is that a love story? It's not?

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Absolutely not, my god, she was a victim of the

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state in a white mob violence.

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And I didn't want to add. A poem that was

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written by someone who called themselves minor, and it's titled

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the Hanging of the Mexican Woman. It goes to us

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long ago a July morn, the stars paled in the

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early light. A man lays stark and dead at dawn,

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his life ebbed with the shades of night. A woman,

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wronged by broader strife, bravely took the avengers part okay.

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One swich aimed blow. Her glistening knife plunged deep into

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a miner's heart. Men gathered then from near and far,

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and left to silence many a mine on many a

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far off creek and bar then shaded by the oak

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and pine, and rushed to swell the surging throng like

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gathering streams in onward flood man thus were wildly borne

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along who shrank from shadding human blood. The hot sun

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shone above the scene. The river murmured in its bed.

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The hills were clothed in summer green, and birds were

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fluttering overhead. Friends tried to shield her, all in vain.

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They brought her forth with wildest geers. The dye was

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cast her blood mustain the annals or anals, and I

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want to say it's anals, but I'm not sure the

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anals of the pioneers. Okay, I feel like it's pron

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It betrayed her as wronged. She was wronged. Yeah, also

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as a murdering avenger. But you know what, she was

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defending herself. But that's tight. Yeah, yeah, she was. She

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was avenging herself. She was. Josepha's lynching is still the

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most well known lynching of a woman today. It was

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told time and time again. Historical marker is still there,

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even if her name was changed. It's also one of

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the only ones that was drawn, and that sketch was

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reproduced time and time again. You want to see it. Yeah,

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we are so behind on Instagram because you can share

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this on Instagram. Oh my god, Oh my god, I

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forgot we had on Instagram size. You're realist, I mean, okay, wow.

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If you are a Patreon listener, you will have seen

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that video and the sketch and we will try to

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remember to upload it on Instagram. I want to add,

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she was absolutely not the only Mexican woman who was

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lynched by a mob of white men in San Luis Obispo.

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In nineteen fifty three, a Mexican woman who was only

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documented as quote, game little vixen end quote what the

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fuck does that mean? Oh my god, vixen. I don't

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even know and I'm horrified, game little vixen. Yes. Wow.

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She was taken from a jail with six Mexican men.

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They had all been jailed for theft, and they were

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all lynched together. And she again is not even named.

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Like that's what they thought of us.

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Yeah.

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In eighteen seventy three in Thriida, Colorado, an unknown Mexican

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women was lynched after a white couple was murdered by

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two Mexican men. A white mob lynched the two Mexican men,

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but they were not done. That was not satisfying. They

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found the women guilty by association, an accuser of trying

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to hide the location of the Mexican men. Wow. And again,

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her name never said, never shared, because she didn't matter.

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While women only lynchings were rare, they did happen, and

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it was common for white mobs just to not care

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if they endangered Mexican women while enacting their version of justice.

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There were times that a mob would burn down the

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house of their target, which was like a Mexican man.

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But they didn't care that his wife and kids were

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also in the house.

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Wow.

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Refuchiur Amidas, his wife Silva yes Merez, and their sixteen

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year old daughter, Maria Ines Ramirez were lynched together in

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Collin County, Texas. Wow. A sixteen year old? Yes, a

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sixteen year old? And do you want another crime? What

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They were accused of bewitching the town? What the fuck?

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Oh my god? They were burned to death together. This

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is me off for being witches supposedly. Wow. Speaking of Texas,

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this is where the worst of the mob violence happened

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to Mexicans, and it was at the hands of Texas

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Rangers most of the time, of course. Yeah, and I'll

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be sharing that in the next episode. And yeah, that's

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it for this episode. This was a shorter one compared

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to the last one. The next one is going to

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be very long. Well, I'm looking forward to hearing about

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the Texas Rangers. I'm not, but I am at the

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same time, I'm already man. Yeah, that was part two

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of my series of the history of flyin Chin. Man.

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That's a lot, it is. Yeah, my brain is just

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rotted with all this right now, I can imagine. Yeah,

484
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if you want to hear us yapping, we do yap

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over on Patreon, and I say yapping, but it's a

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lot of like yelling, yelling. I'm just kidding, crying. No,

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we talk about like things that are going on now

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that you know are important. Yeah, current events, current events.

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Sometimes we yap about other things, but most of the

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time we're either talking about executive orders that are new,

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new developments, things like that. So we have a free

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book club on Patreon currently. We have already probably discussed

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the factors by the time this episode comes out. Yeah,

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who knows what our next book will be. Yeah, it

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kind of randomly just happened. So it did, it did so,

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And we have the link on Patreon for the channel

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where we are going to be doing those book club

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random book club discussions on whatever random book we do.

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We should do Jesus and John Wayne. Should we do

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Jesus and John Wayne? I feel like we should. Okay,

501
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we should. All right, that's official, that's our next book

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club book. And other than that, I hope that the

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story of Josefa Loisa properly pissed you off. I'm kidding

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that too, but also that it's one less Estoria known

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for you Bye Bye. Astoria's ann is produced by Carmen

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and Christina, researched by Carmen and Christina, edited by Christina.

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You can find sources for every episode at Estoria's unknown

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dot com and in our show notes. Creating the podcast

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