Sept. 11, 2025

The Beacon Hill School Occupation

The Beacon Hill School Occupation

On October 11, 1972, Chicano activists led by Roberto Maestas (1938-2010) occupy the abandoned Beacon Hill School. In this episode, Cristina tells Carmen about this historic protest. 

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Sources
https://www.seattlemet.com/news-and-city-life/2022/03/el-centro-de-la-raza-beacon-hill-occupied-protest-seattle
https://www.nps.gov/places/beacon-hill-school-el-centro-de-la-raza.htm
https://historylink.org/File/2588
https://mohai.org/collections-and-research/search/item/2002.46/-.272%23.24/?searchQuery=Civil+Rights&Music&Anderson&modules%5B0%5D=item&pageNum=20
https://depts.washington.edu/civilr/maestas.htm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Centro_de_la_Raza
https://www.elcentrodelaraza.org/aboutus/history-evolution/
https://www.elcentrodelaraza.org/aboutus/roberto-felipe-maestas/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roberto_Maestas
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gang_of_Four_(Seattle)
https://frontporch.seattle.gov/2021/09/21/latinx-heritage-month-roberto-maestas/

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WEBVTT

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Hi, everyone. This is Carmen and Christina and this is

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Estoria's Unknown, a podcaster where we talk about Latin American history.

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Sometimes it's horrible and deals with heavy topics like criticism, corruption,

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and genocide. But more than that, it's also bout resistance,

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power and community. Christina, Carmen, what are we talking about today? Well, Carmen,

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we live an occupation story, like a building physically being occupied. Oh,

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that's what we're doing today. I thought. I was like, oh,

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in the sense that Hawaii and Puerto Rico are being

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occupied by the nice thing, we don't. We do not

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like that type of occupation. We actually hate that, but

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we love when people take over a building. That's what

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I meant by occupying. No, no, we do. Yeah, yeah,

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we really do. And that's what brought me to today's topic.

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But first, let me tell you what actually brought me

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to today's topic. I wasn't seeking an occupation story. It just

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became one. So I was walking around Beacon Hill here

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in Seattle. I'm exploring the city. You know, Okay, I

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am now, I'm a coastal elite, you know, No, no

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one of those yes, I am no. Moving on. I

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was walking around Beacon Hill and I saw this super

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cool emilianos Abata painting which I posted on the Espookit

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does Instagram, I need to post it on the estodias,

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a known Instagram, And I saw other very like Latino

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Latina things, and I was like, what's going on here?

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This sounds like a like it's a very Latino area,

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and it is. And when I was looking up Beacon

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Hill things as we were driving from the Filipino place

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we ate at to the bookstore, I was looking up

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Beacon Hill and then I came across the nineteen seventy

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two occupation of Beacon Hill School in Seattle. Okay, So yeah,

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in the year of the occupation taking place, the Beacon

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Hill School was just in a bad building and it

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had been built back in nineteen oh three because Seattle

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had been growing, particularly the Beacon Hill area, and the

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building had been slated to be an eight room school

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that would cost twenty thousand dollars to build. And over

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the next decades the student population was growing, but that

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peaked in the mid nineteen sixties. The period that followed

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the late nineteen sixties saw the decrease of student enrollment

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in Seattle Public schools, which continued into the nineteen eighties,

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causing schools to be closed. Side note, but there is

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a decrease in enrollment right now. I was just gonna

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mention that it's only in Santle. Almost everywhere there's a

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decrease in enrollments. Yeah. Yeah, I'm sure that this whole

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Department of Education thing going on right now federally is

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not helping either. Oh yeah, not that dumb wrestling bitch

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is in charge of the Department of Education. Yeah, McMahon,

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and have the right last name. That's right, McMahon. Yeah,

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came back to me. I'm okay, whatever, who cares nice,

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she's a bitch. Yes, that's the point of that. Yeah. So,

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but back then, the reasons for the decrease of student

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enrollment was like they due to two reasons, the end

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of the baby boom era, which was a problem nationwide

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with the decrease of enrollment not just Seattle, but specifically

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also the growing number of families leaving urban areas for

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suburban areas. Do you remember the other name for this,

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not the burbs, It rhymes the White flight. Yes, I

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was thinking the Great Escape, and I knew that was wrong,

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But then it came to me afterwards. But you know what,

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they could be the same thing. Gwen Stefani writing The

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Great Escape. I don't know if you wrote it, but

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I don't know either. Yeah, did I say? I thought,

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I said, Gwen Stefani writing the White Flight, and I

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was like, no, that it was a way to say, yeah, anyway, yes,

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the White Flight. And so by then the my graphics

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of this Seattle neighborhood had been changing. The I five

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was constructed in nineteen sixty seven, which caused this major change.

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I don't know if you it's I think it's. This

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story of I five being constructed is the same in

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a lot of places where it went through like black

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and brown neighborhoods and then isolated them and then polluted them. Anyway,

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So yeah, the construction of the I five in Seattle

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in nineteen sixty seven changed this area completely. It cut

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off Beacon Hill from the rest of the city, and

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then middle and upper class residents began to leave for

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the surrounding suburbs, and people of color began to move

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into the area and even greater numbers. It was already

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a very diverse part of Seattle, but then it grew

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in those diverse numbers, those beautiful diverse numbers. I know

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this is going to sound dumb, but when I think

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of Seattle, I don't think the diverse at all. Oh yeah, no,

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that's a very common It's the whitest city. It's one

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of the whitest cities. This is llianed Okay, I'm not

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surprised to hear that. But then yeah, that's why it

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doesn't clock to me. I hate how that's an part

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of our the siconga I love saying it. So yeah,

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it doesn't clock to me that Seattle being one of

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the whitest city that there's a diverse side. But of course,

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I mean where everywhere as diverse people. Yeah, there's pockets

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of diversity that Beacon Hill being one of them, Central District,

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and then this area so South Seattle basically, and then

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there's like cities that are very close that are also

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very very diverse, like Beeran, where that pizza place is

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that I am obsessed with, that's where a lot of

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the Latino population is at. And then also White Center.

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But I mean, even before moving to Washington, I did

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not think it was a very I thought it was

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only white people, but of course not first there's always

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indigenous people. This was course indigenous land first and foremost. Yes,

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but no, there are there has been Black Chinese, like

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Asian Filippine course of course activism like of course we're everywhere,

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and so yeah, there's pots of diverse areas, Beacon Hill

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being one of them, one of the most diverse in Seattle.

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And as you and our listeners know, the sixties and

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seventies were it was a time of movements in the US. Yeah,

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I think we just said literally that sentence last. We

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were in the same timeframe, aren't we. Yeah we are,

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Oh my god, wow. And yeah, like the fight for

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black civil rights is in full throttle, the fight of

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all the pressed groups really in this country grew at

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the same time, like really off the back of the

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civil rights movement, including the Chicano movement. And we've talked

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about different instances during the Chicano movement involving California, Texas,

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even Denver. We talked about our high school walkout in

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Denver some episode like episodes ago. But Washington, there was

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a movement here too, of course, but again they just

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don't come to mind. But the Latina community was growing

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in this area primarily because of the VASSETO program is

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why it started growing. During the rest of the program,

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mostly Mexicans went to places like Yakima and eastern Washington.

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And then from there people keep moving. People keep it moving,

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that's what we do. And so from there they left

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for the big city to Seattle looking for work. And

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that's how most of them ended up in Seattle. And

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one of those many Mexicans who moved from the Yakama

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Spokane areas of Washington was named Roberto Maestas, who would

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go on to leave the occupation of Beacon Hill School

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in nineteen seventy two. Okay slain and Roberto Maestas was

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born July ninth, nineteen thirty eight, in the small rural

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farming community of Getting ready for this name of San

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Agustine del Vage, the Nuestra Senora de Lures. This is

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like hardly a town. It's a village really, it's so

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small and it's a border town in New Mexico. His

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mother died of tuberculosis when he was six months old,

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and his maternal grandparents, don Isidro and Donia Emilia Hil

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raised him and his sixteen siblings. Listeners, I just fell

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out my seat. She did, I saw her. She's getting

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back up right now. It's trugling. And his passion for

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social justice had been instilled in him from pretty much birth.

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He and his family were pushed off their land in

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New Mexico, and he always described his time working in

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the fields as quote having been treated like slaves. Like

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so many before and after him, He went from where

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he was and then just made his way north following

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the work in the fields. So he left his New

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Mexico home at thirteen thirteen or fourteen, I saw both

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ages after being kicked out of his school in New

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Mexico for speaking Spanish. Bullshit, that's already another radicalizing event

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in his life on top of that, and so he

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headed to the beat for in Colorado, then the lettuce

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fields in California, then potato and hop in Idaho and Yakima.

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And in Yakima he was like, oh, I want to

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see the edge of the ocean. That was like his

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dreams seeing the edge of the ocean. And he hit

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shiked his way from Yakima to Seattle in the nineteen fifties.

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That's two and a half, no almost three hours, and

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once he was in Seattle, he decided to finish his education,

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so he was working and attending the Cleveland High School.

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And he worked several different jobs until he graduated. He

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was a gas station attendant and elevator operator at the

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Smith Tower, a factory worker in Boeing. Then he enrolled

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After graduating in high school, he enrolled in the University

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of Washington and graduated with the bachelors in Spanish and

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journalism in nineteen sixty six, and he was one of

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the first Chicago graduates of the University of Washington. Noise, Yeah,

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like top ten in the top ten graduate, Like first

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ten to graduate from this university. And then he went

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back for a master's in Romance Languages in Literature in

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nineteen seventy one, and then it was one of the

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first Chicanos to receive a master's degree in the university

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as well. Damn or to earn, I should say, not

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receive earn, just out here making history trail based. Oops,

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trail blazing. Yeah, my bad, I don't have a degree.

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So and he began to teach Spanish at Franklin High

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School in the city, where he was further radicalized. On

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March twenty ninth, nineteen sixty nine, he unintentionally joined what

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would be his first school occupation on accident. Really, black

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students were outraged at the unfair treatment they were receiving

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from school administrators, and one hundred of them marched into

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the principal school and refused to leave until they were

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listened to. Okay, yeah. As the city in was taking

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other teachers were fleeing, like screaming out of the building

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because they were scared because of the sit in. Oh

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it's so scary. Which people sitting down? Stupid? Mm hmm. Yeah,

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Oh no, the black students are sitting down. I'm so scared, insane. Oh,

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there's being so aggressive just sitting there. Yeah, cannot And Roberto,

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on the other hand, was just standing there in the hallway,

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like what's going on? Why is everyone running away? And

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that's when Larry Gossip, one of the black student union

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leaders of the University of Washington, came out and spoke

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to Roberto, and Roberto told him that he was quote

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interested in why all my black students are so upset?

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I want to learn what the issues are and a

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quote okay, And he joined the protesters inside the principal's office,

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sat with them and just listened and wow. Yeah. The

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sit in lasted basically that day until the next morning

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it was and then the next morning it was over.

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And from the moment that the sitting was over, Roberto

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announced that he would no longer tolerate being called Bob

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or Robert Good. Yes, he told other teachers he would

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only go by Roberto. But when he said this, he

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was like, you will call me Roberto. He was bowling

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the ours on purpose, and yeah, he was like he

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learned that from the black students, and he was like, no,

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I'm not going to conform to whiteness just because it's

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easier for them. M M. In nineteen seventy two, he

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was teaching ESL at styles Piano Community College and was

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regularly participated in activist movements. He became part of what

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became known as the Gang of Four. The Gang of

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Four was made up of himself, Larry Gossi who I

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just mentioned, Bernie Whitebear, and Bob Santos. They would all

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be known for their racial justice activism and then they

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were called the Gang of four because of how much

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they work together in all these movements, Like this was real. Yes,

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I was like, what, that's the worst solidarity? Yes, And

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by this point, Chicano students in Washing all of Washington

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really had already been expressing their concerns of the failure

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of the educational system to cope with cultural differences and

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the problems of the bilingual child. This is already like

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on the top of their concerns. On top of that,

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the ESL program at the college was suddenly cut due

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to federal budget cuts. But this wasn't going to stop Roberto.

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He and his group began to look for alternative locations

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to house their ESL program, but it wasn't going well.

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It seemed like the city was giving them the run around,

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and it was getting old to them. And they had

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already been eyeing the abandoned Beacon Hill School. And after

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a while of looking and trying to find a different

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place for their ESL program, and having trying to inquire

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about the Beacon Hill School, they were like, they're not like,

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the city's not at they're not all listening to us.

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We have no choice but to occupy the building to

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get things rolling. And so they began to organize, and

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the main like mastermind behind the occupation was Roberto. And

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so they began to organize this occupation and on October eleventh,

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nineteen seventy two, they had a meeting with a district

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facilities manager from the school district, and this meeting was

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supposed to be an inspection to see if the school

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was a viable option for their program, Like it was

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supposed to be just oh, let's look at it. Once

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the district employee unlocked the door, one hundred students and

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staff from the ESL program showed up and entered the building.

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Us like the yeah. He was very confused. Actually, we

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were taking this building pretty much. She said, we're occupying

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this building now until our de management or yes, like

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until we're heard, until we're yeah, and so then Chicano

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students from the University of Washington showed up. Then Robertta

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called Larry Gassid, who shut up with twelve other Black

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SERN activists. Then the employee was like, what is happening?

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And he immediately left to report this to the district.

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And the meantime, Bob Santos was called as well, and

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he got the support of the Human Rights Commission, and

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now the occupation was official. Robertta already had the media

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on the phone like, Hey, this building occupied, these are

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our demand Baton yeah, we're here. And at first their

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school district was very willing to let them have the building.

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The Seattle School District said that they would allow the

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former school to become a Chicano Multi service center. And

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on October twenty second, nineteen seventy two, so what is this,

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eleven days into the occupation, the city council agreed to

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lease the building from the district for one dollar a

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year or this Chicano Multi Service center. And it seemed

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like everything was gonna work out. But but within a

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few days, the city Council's Finance committee voted no on

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this measure because they were worried about having to pay

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to fix the building up because they had been abandoned

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for a while, and they were like, well, who's going

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to pay for that? So they were like no, And

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then the coalition was like, okay, well we're gonna stay

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here then until someone says yes, they're going to continue

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to occupy the building. And one of the biggest complications

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with the occupation of this building was the lack of

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heat and water. Oh no, but the community flooded them

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with support. They not only donated money towards the cause,

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they also brought Chinese food, Japanese food, soul food from

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like surrounding restaurants. They brought groceries, they donated electric heaters,

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sleeping bags. Every day they would receive buckets of water

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that they ferried in from nearby restaurants and gas stations. Oh,

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because the plumbing and the building didn't work, so every

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day people would just like pass down buckets of water

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for them. And then one month of occupation turned into two.

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During the second month of the occupation, Roerto Maestas and

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Estella Ortega got married. Oh wow, in the basement of

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the school. What a beautiful story. Yeah, And the day

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after the wedding, Roberto began a liquids only fast to

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further protest the city council's nonsense. Then the two month

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occupation turned into three months during a record cold winter

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in a building that has no heat. Like, that's commitment.

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At the same time that they were occupying this building,

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they also staged a sit in at the city council's

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chambers and a sit in the Mayor's office, which then

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resulted in the leaders of both protests being arrested. And

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it wasn't until after seventy five days of this that

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the City finally agreed. They finally caved. They acquired the

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building from the Seattle School District in June nineteen seventy

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seventy three and sublease it to the organization for one

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dollar a year for five years was the contract, and

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since nineteen seventy two it became El Centro. Well, once

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this was all finally done twenty nineteen seventy two because

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it settlement occupation, well, I guess nineteen seventy three. Anyway,

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it became El Centro de la Rasa or the Center

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for People of All Races in English, and they're still

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providing services to the community today. They support youth with

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various programs, childcare, education, housing costs. They have cultural events.

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During the early name teen eighties, when the regular administration

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and the whole contra you remember that, the Iran Contra, Yeah,

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Iran Contra scandal, the reagular administration was supporting the Nicaraguan contrast,

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which was the right wing militia group. El Centro played

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a major role in convincing the Seattle City Council to

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adopt Managua as a sister city. Wow, I didn't even

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know it was a sister city. But I also didn't

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know until like the PNW hunts and homicides. Girls told

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me that Guadalajara is a sister city with Portland, and

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I was like, are you serious? So, yeah, you're like

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tenth year living there. You're like what nine? I was

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just guessing you were close anyway. Yeah, So Managua is

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sister cities with Seattle. Okay, that's cool, And the city

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council was strongly opposed to this, but because of El

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Centro's work they were they finally agreed to make that happen.

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And El Centro's bond with Nikara what happened even before

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the Sandinistas took power in nineteen seventy nine. Once the

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nineteen seventy two Nikanaiua earthquake happened, they were able to

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coordinate relief efforts from the Santle area as Central was

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and there is a Nikadaigua population here too. Cool. Because

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of all this and another direct action that happened when

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the Washington Natural Gas Company cut off in Central's heat,

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teachers and children of the Child Development Center staged a

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sit in at the CEO Washington Natural Gas at the

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office until they restored the gas. And they also built

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affordable housing. It has one hundred and ten units that

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houses three hundred and fifty people. In twenty fifteen, that's

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still there and it's designed for people that make twenty

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four tho to forty nine thousand dollars a year, which

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obviously that's not enough to live like literally anywhere, but

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people have to make it work, and thanks to programs

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like this, they are able to. I love affordable housing.

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And yeah, that's the history of the occupation of Beacon Hill,

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which became El Centro la la Rasa, which is still

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there today doing good work. How cool that they're still

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around helping the community. Yeah. I passed by the building

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and I was like, what is this? Let me That's

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when I was like googling. Yeah, there's like a very

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beautiful murals everywhere, like the one I posted on our

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stories and just more I didn't Seeah, I'll repost it.

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I need to look more into this because I didn't

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write down his name, but there's a I think he

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wasn't He was from like the Midwest and the US.

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Somehow he became trained in art in Mexico and he

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changed his name to Bablo and Bablo or hair or

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something like that. I need to look at this more.

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But his name is Bablo. His new name became Bablo,

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and he is like a super well known Mexican muralist.

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He's not Mexican. He was like an honorary Mexican. Oh.

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Interesting because he was trained under the goor Riveta and

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he has there's a painting at the University of Washington

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of his that was I want to say it was

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at El Central Rasaur. It was somewhere, and then it

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was moved to the University of Washington, University of Washington.

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But I would just find it so interesting that he's

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just like this white ass honorary Mexican. Yeah, but he

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trained under the gor Riveta over there, and he's like

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he's I mean, he's basically a Mexican and that painting

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is at the University of Washington. I gotta go look

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at it. We should go. Well, no, we have too

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much to do when you're here. I have to figure

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out I'm still I haven't looked at flights yet, but

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I'm going to. Okay, Well, the event is November first.

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We have an event, y'all. We haven't said on said no, no, God,

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we haven't. No, we haven't Okay, Yeah, November first, twenty

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twenty five, we have an event in Yakima and Yakemy

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what Yaka Ukamians Andians out there. I don't think that's

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the thing has to be. I mean even Seattle lights

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like make the drive okay, yeah, but yeah, we're gonna

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be there telling scary stories. It's called the Cuckoo is

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going to get you a bilingual, ish, cultural rooted parormal

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night of storytelling, sustos and spirits, blending spooky stories, folklore,

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audience interaction, and immersive activities to waken your spooky side.

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Featuring I'm sure a lot of people know who he is.

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He means, he's way more homes than us, so don't

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know him before us. But Jonathan Perez from Latinos against

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Spooky Shit on TikTok is also on Instagram and then

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us mm hmm. Yeah, we're gonna be there. I mean

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we're gonna be there under a spooky tales. But if

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you're an histori as a known fan and the area,

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come through, come see us. It starts seven pm November first,

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So tickets are not insane like other events. It's like

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literally thirty something dollars or forty dollars at most and yeah,

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we're going to be there, so you know, even if

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you're not, if you're there only for the history of

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we're just gonna be there in the spooky capacity. Yeah,

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but yeah, I'm excited. So yeah, we're gonna be there.

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And I'll put the link in the show notes for

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the tickets. All right, is there anything else you want

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to add? Oh my god, we still didn't get together

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a book and an update. Oh my god, you know

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what it's coming, we swear yes, and yeah. Other than that,

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Sometimes things happen and we do like two a month,

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but it ends up almost being weekly where we just

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yap about like current events, really news, but also sometimes

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like TikTok drama or whatever comes to mind. Sometimes Carmen

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has spent the whole time talking about religious fundy influencers. Yeah,

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or oh my god, it's so need to upload it.

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But we spend some time discussing the NOSO discourse. You

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still need to upload it. Yes, I forgot that talking

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about it. I forgot I forgot, we talked about it.

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It's relevant always because it's going to come up again anyway.

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That's true. It's never ending. At the time of recording it,

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it will be up for sure. But yeah, those end

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up being like almost an hour long or sometimes more.

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And yeah, we do that over there on Patreon, and

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