Dec. 4, 2025

Anastasio Aquino's Rebellion

Anastasio Aquino's Rebellion
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In 1833, an indigenous man named Anastasio Aquino led a rebellion against the Spanish. Cristina tellls Carmen about this moment in Salvadoran history.

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Hi everyone. This is Carmen and Christina and this is

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the Studia's Unknown, a podcast where we talk about Latin

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American history. Sometimes it's horrible and deals with heavy topics

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like cracism, corruption, and genocide. But more than i it's

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also about resistance, power and community. And that's what today

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is about, resistance, power and community. Resistance. Oh cool, Yeah,

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I'm I'm excited for this episode. So we'll just yeah,

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jump right into this. All right. I'm gonna start with

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a little little saying here for you. Salvadorans are born fighters.

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Have you heard our father say this to us? No?

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Has he said it to you? Yeah? Especially after having

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my kids. Oh, I'll tell them like one of them

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is like fighting the other because one of them took something.

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And he's like, well, fighting is in their blood of course.

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Oh yeah, okay, so this is like a thing. He

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of course is also a fighter, as we know from

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his many childhood stories of him fighting or when we

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got in fights or I got in fights. For you,

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he would say the same thing, and yeah, this is

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the thing people say, Salvadorians are fighters. No, no, that

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you said, I'm like, oh yeah, okay, okay, yeah, And

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if you if you look past like the US or

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the American perception of the Salvador, where it's like people

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are only seen in the context of being refugees of

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the Civil War or victims of the gangs, or like now,

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you know, trying to survive a dictatorship, which some people

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don't view as a dictorship. But right, moving past that someone, Yeah,

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moving past that, like when you look at you know,

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the history of the country. Yeah, resistance is part of it.

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Resistance is in So we have talked about the civil

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War the events before it, like La Matanza, but there

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are so many periods of resistance that we have not

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talked about. But before we get into today's topic, which

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is someone named Anastasio Aquino, I have some context. Okay,

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So I don't know if we have talked about this

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time period yet, but if not, hopefully it's not like

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repeaterd information. But again I didn't remember a lot of

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this myself. So before the Spanish colonizers, the Pipil had

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lived in Couscatlan for over four hundred years, and Custan

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is what we know in Sara like as today. That

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was Couscatlan, and the Pipil lived in mostly the western

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and central part of the country. And they are not

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the only indigenous group. Indigenous too in Salavadada. Of course,

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there's also the Lenka who are now in Usuli Don,

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San Miguel, Morassan and laou Leon. There's also the Kakawira

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who are also in Morosan, and then there's also Maya

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Chorti who are in the department of Aua Chapan. This

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is near Guatemala, Okay. And today the biggest concentration of

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Pipil is in sont Ate, especially Nawisalco and Isalco, also

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Ajua Chapan, La Liberta, Santa Ana and pan Chi Malco,

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which is just outside of San sal Vado. Before colonization,

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the Pipil traded as far as Teyoti Wacan, which is

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Mexico City today. Hello. Hello, this is Christina from the

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Future editing Christina, I'm as spoke here. Teyoti Jacan is

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actually forty kilometers northeast of what we call Mexico City today,

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so twenty five miles northeast of Mexico City. Okay, back

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to the episode, and so yeah, just to say it

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was a thriving, you know area. The pp themselves are

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said to have come from a split between like one

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now we speaking group that was like originally from Mexico

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and like made their way down to what is in Sarvalord. Now,

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oh I didn't know. Yeah, and part of like like

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this happened like years ago before all that. But yeah,

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just all this to say it was, you know, it

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was thriving until the Spanish came in June of fifteen

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twenty four ruined everything. Yeah, from up north. The Spanish

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ventured into Central America from Mexico. And this expedition was

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led by Pedro de Alvarado, a lieutenant of Ednan Cortes.

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He had thousands of Claxcala and Chicuel forces with him.

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And of course, like these groups have always been either

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living together or fighting and then figuring out how to

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live together. That was always a thing. Like before someone says, oh, well,

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before they were all fighting, they were eating each other

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moments shut up, right, and so and we know like

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places that have like quote unquote conquered other places, Well,

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then those people have no choice but to join armies

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or they make alliances that they don't know what's going

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to happen in the future. Of course they didn't, they

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didn't expect a colonization, genocide. They were just surviving. They

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were just living it. Yeah, because I know people are

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always like, oh, well, the Trakskala people helped the they

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were the downfall of like the Aztecs too. Like people

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will like always like point to the allies that helped

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the Spanish. But it's like people were just trying to survive.

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So anyway, this initial force that like arrived in June

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of fifteen twenty four, they were forced back into Whatatemla

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when they met fierce resistance in the Sara and they

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can they had to come back with their army two

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more times and fifth teen twenty five and fifteen twenty

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eight because they kept losing and the Nawai leaders at

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La cat and a tonale And I thought you were

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going to say something about that battalion. Yeah, I said

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it with my face sounds like yeah. Carmen made like

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a little frowny face because if anyone remembers the Atlatte

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battalion from was responsible. We talked about it the last

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episode and they've come up before. But this was the

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special forces of the Salvador during the civil War, who

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were responsible for killing so many people, so many people

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so like what and I don't know if ironic is

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the right word, but like this battalion named after at

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La cat who was this fierce indigenous peers in finding

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back the oppressive forces, they went on to a massacre

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the indigenous people and the what oh in the civil

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war in the civil war, yeah, which yeah, so what

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a what a strange strange thing. Anyway, So some people

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say that at Laka and Aal are not real and

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that it is only a myth because there is no

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contemporary mentions like so, no new like no new writings.

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There was no surviving codexes either from like Thesalvador, like

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Guatemala has surviving codexes, and so does Mexikoba and does not.

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And so the only mentions of at Lakat is in

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this book or this collection called the Annals of the Keels,

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which is a manuscript written Inchkel, which is Mayan from Guatemala.

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And this manuscript describes legends of the people. And so

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it's like believed to be myth and legends like the

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you've heard the woman. Yeah, but it's at least part

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of it is factual because it ends with the factual

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account of colonization and so, yeah, Atlacatte could be very

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much real because part of this of this manuscript is

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one hundred percent real, and it provides an indigenous respective

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to the conquest quote unquote conquest, and I don't like

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using that same so according to this book. According to legend,

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the first time the Spanish arrived in Couscatlan, Pedro de

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Alvarado found the city partially abandoned. The people had fled

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to the mountains. Pedro de Alvarado sent a message demanding

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their surrender, but when he received a reply, it was

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the opposite. The message read quote if you want our arms,

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you must come get them from the mountains. End quote

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come again, a bitch. Basically yeah, and this was this

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message was said to be sent by atlacat himself. And

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the Spanish tried attacking the people in the mountains, but

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they were forced to retreat they could. They kept losing,

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but over time, over the years, the Spanish did gain

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more and more territory. Within two years of that initial fight,

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the Spanish had already set up a base at Santa Vador,

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where they continued to fight the pepel and so Diego

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de Alvarado was back two years so fifteen twenty six,

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and it was during this battle that the majority of

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the Nahuat pipele were defeated. But before he could be captured,

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at Laca jumped into a volcano and so he was

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never captured. He was like, I'd rather die than be

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part or be what's called not conquested, because that's not

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a word conquered, conquered. Oh my god, Oh my god,

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I feel so dumb. And even though their fears leader

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at Lacat was gone, the pipe continued to resist for

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another fifteen years. Wow, it would be another fifteen years

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before they could say the quote unquote conquest was over.

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And they did this without guns, without horses and cannons,

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all of which the Spanish had. Eventually, the Spanish colonized

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Guzgatlan and forever changed the land before I forget to

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say Guzgatlan means the land of the jewels in Naguat.

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Oh I didn't know that. Oh, well now you do. Cool,

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I don't know again the irony because to the Spanish

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this would be land that would give them, like they

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would take and take from the land and destroy it,

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you know. But they got their exports because course Caatlan

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became in and that once fertile and diverse land became

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a colony of export crops. And like we said way

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back in episode one, the first export crop was indigo,

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and then after that cacao, and then after that coffee. Yeah,

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in the late eighteen hundreds. And it's in this time

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period when Anastasio Aquino was alive and led his rebellion.

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So we're now in the late eighteen hundred no, no, no, oh, sorry,

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when it was indigo. Oh yeah, that wasn't clear, No, okay,

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And it was in the time period before coffee that

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was alive, Yes, time period, I yess. And so Anastasio

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Aquino was born April fifteen, seventeen ninety two in Santiago, Nonalco,

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and he was born into a family of titis, or

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chiefs among the Nonalco, a tribe of the people nation.

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And back then when he was born, and Sara Relodo

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was not in San Rolodo yet it was part of

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the Federal Republic of Central America. After Mexico's War of

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Independence from Spain, and Sara Lodo was briefly part of Mexico,

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and a lot happened in Mexico after the War of

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Independence and this would need to be an own series

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of episodes. But basically, after the War of Independence ended

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in eighteen twenty one, from eighteen twenty one to eighteen

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twenty three, Agustin de Iturbide was Mexico's emperor. Then he

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was dethroned in eighteen twenty three. And when he was

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dethroned in eighteen twenty Threejuate, malal Hoduras, Nicaraguay, and Costa

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Rica declared independence from Mexico and they became the Federal

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Republic of Central America. And this Federal Republic lasted until

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eighteen forty. It's not very long. And I mean keeping

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these five like the places, five different disease countries with

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their own cultures one nation was very difficult from the beginning, Yeah,

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very tumultuous from the start. And during this government the

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money was so scarce, and to raise money to support

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the federation, even more land was taken from the indigenous

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of course, because for a long time, even after colonization,

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indigenous people were allowed to farm in lands that were

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not occupied by aciendas. But it was in this time

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period that then aciendas began to began to expand and expand,

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and with that expansion forced labor in these aciendas and

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mines they continue to grow. It was mostly the indigenous

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populations that were forced to do that, forced labor who

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were forced to work. Like we talked about in episode one,

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the same stuff was happening with indigo before it happened

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with coffee. Naturally, this led to uprisings because the people,

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of course, they're going to demand rights and to be

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treated like people. Yeah, the people are gonna they're gonna

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want people to people will resist the people, yes, exactly,

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the people will always resist. And so one of these

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uprisings was led by Anastasia Jachino. It was late eighteen

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thirty two in Santiago Nonualco, and Anastasio was a worker

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on an indigo plantation and for some unknown reason, his

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brother was arrested by the assenda were owner and this

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could be any reason like it could be, and it

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probably was something under bullshits like reason, right of course,

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And when this happened, when his brother was arrested, Astasio

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said it was enough, this was enough, and now it

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was time to fight back. And a lot of people

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felt the same way when he said this, and the

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workers joined him. They began to attack army posts. First,

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as it went from place to place, they recruited more

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people and then they you know, they were burning assendas

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along the way. Okay, And by the end of January

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eighteen thirty three he had an army and again this

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number is what a difference, but this is the number

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I found. But he had an army of two thousand

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to five thousand men, oh wow, who were mostly armed

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with lances, a spear like weapon with what is it

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called a lance? Like you know the lance? Yeah, because

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you said like lances, so it was im plural because

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they had more than one. I wasn't sure what you

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were saying. Oh I see, yeah, lances. Anyway, so they

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started in Ascienda in Santiago Nonualco and made their way

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along the Comalapa and Limpa rivers, and it was there

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where General Juan Josseu's man tried to suppress the uprising,

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but he was defeated two times in a row and

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then he fled. I guess he's like, I'm not losing anymore,

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I'm leaving serves him right, yeah, And this left Colonel

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Joaquin the San Martin in charge. So at the time,

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at the same time that this was happening that that

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other general fled and now the colonel is in charge.

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The military was like, no, we're not okay with this,

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we want the other guy. The other guy abandoned a

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and so then they all abandoned San Salvador. They're like,

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we're not fighting without the other guy. Yeah, and then

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the colonel, Colonel Joaquin, the San Martin, he had to

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run slash high for his life. Wow. Sadly, Anastasio Aquino

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was not aware of the chaos in San Salvador that

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the Spanish found themselves in, or maybe things would have

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turned out differently, so they were somewhere else. This all

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happened February fifth, eighteen thirty three, and Anastaso's army was

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busy in Sacatecoluca, which is in the department of Lapace,

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which is fifty nine point two kilometers away from San Salvador,

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which today that's not far, that's like an hour drive,

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but back then that was a long journey. So Anastasio

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and his army in not knowing that, they could have

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doubled back and went straight to San saa Bloa and

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like took over. Basically, they went to San Vicente instead,

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and so by February fourteenth, they were in San Vicente.

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San Vicente welcomed him and the army because they didn't

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want to fight. They wanted to avoid the sacking of

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the assendas that had been happening. And while Anastasio was like,

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let's not sack this city, his army was like, no,

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we're sacking the city. We owners. Fuck these fools, this

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isn't uprising. Bring them blind, We don't give one thing.

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Go fuck yeah, And so they still did it. And

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in San Vicente, Anastasio went to the church of Nouestra

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Senora del Pilard and took the crown from this little

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this statue that they had of Saint Joseph. And then

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he put the crown and he proclaimed himself the King

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of the Nonalcos. And so then they went to te

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pe Titan, another municipality in San Vicente, and there he

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he was proclaimed the General Commandant of the Liberation Army.

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And after this he then proclaimed the Declaration of the Beetitan.

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In this declaration, he ended the payment of taxes to

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the government, especially on indigo, which was the main product

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of the country. Really, he proclaimed the end of forced labor.

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He prohibited collection of debts contracted before the rebellion. He

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announced a lot of things, and at this point the

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Spanish were trying to reach an agreement with the rebels.

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They tried to send two priests to contact Anastasio, but

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only one of them was able to even attempt to

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get a hold of him, and the rebellion was like, nah,

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we're not doing this, not today's Spaniards, not today, Yeah,

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not today. Unfortunately, eventually the Spanish government was able to

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raise an army to confront the rebels. This army included

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many residents of San Vicente who wanted revenge for the

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sacking of the city. So maybe if they hadn't sacked it,

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they wouldn't have had enough people for their army. We

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can only say what ifs speculate. One of the army commanders,

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Major Quaya, he wanted an Assassi for himself. He was like,

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leave him for me, he's mine, but he was defeated

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before he got to do anything. Yeah, so loser. Yes,

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According to legend, Anastasio they like saw each other in

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the battlefield, you know, and then Anastasio rushed at him

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and he yelled, Trinta, Yeah, then throw Santiago referring to basically,

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you're surrounded, bitch, Like, that's what that translates to Santiaguenos

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referring to like the place occupied by the troops at

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the moment of the attack. So yeah, basically he was like,

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you're surrounded, you have nowhere to go. You're mine, You're

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actually mine, you know your asses and grass. Yeah, as

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in the words of a Tina Oh my god, oh

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Tina Belcher, I was like, Tina Burger, that's not right.

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It's been too long since I've watched bombed burgers, bomb burgers,

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I can tell, all right. And things were going really

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well for the rebels, but then around the end of February,

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they were not doing so good. Their numbers were windling,

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not because they were losing to the Spanish in the battlefield,

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but because of disease. I was I was going to

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guess that, Yeah, I don't know what disease, but it

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could have been something from the Spaniards, probably though, of course,

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because the Spainers were fine. Yeah. And so the Spanish

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took advantage of this and Colonel Juan Jose Lopez and

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five thousand men attacked and ended up winning well this battle.

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And in this battle, Anastasio was not captured, and the

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Spanish began to offer those that they did capture. They

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began to offer them that they could stay alive. They

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would let them live if they could reveal Anastasia's location,

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and so many chose to die oh wow. But one

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person took the offer, oh no, And Anastasio was found

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on April twenty third, eighteen thirty three. He was then

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moved to sak t Go Luca, where he was tried

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and condemned to death. They did this by firing squad

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in San Vicente. And after they executed him via firing squad, no,

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they cut off his head and then displayed it in

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iron cage with the label example for rebels, And there

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was a quote somewhere I don't remember what source, what

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are my mini sources this, but this call was like

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a savage ax for the savages. So the savages CURSI.

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Oh of course he said that, yeah, of course, I'm

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not surprised at all. And then from there they took

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this display to Santa and he may have been captured

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and killed, but his legacy lived on forever. Lives lives on.

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A song began to circulate after the rebellion in all

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say in Spanish, first El Indio, Anastasio Aquino, le Mando

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de Prado, Kenno Peli rajamas gontral, Pueblo de Santiago, Aquino

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di quasi, dan faol Indi opero beni, Damien le Mando

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de sikelos Indios mandarian berqueeste pais rade jos como el

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Milo Sabilla Aquino, dan fel Indi opero Beni and down

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in glaze in englishon in English, and sorry the dan

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faol Indio probi. That was a little hard for me,

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but here was my best. So the Indian. Anastasio Aquino

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was sent to say to Brado that he will never

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fight against the people of Santiago. Aquino said it, thus,

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so ugly the Indian, but I came, so, Aquino himself said,

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so ugly the Indian, but I came. I guess like

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he he arrived to fight. I guess I don't. Yeah,

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I think so yeah. He also was sent to say

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that the Indians would rule because this country was theirs,

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as he himself knew. Aquino said it thus so ugly

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the Indian, but I came, So yeah, I think I

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came to fight you. Yeah, and poets Pedro, Jeffrey Ribaz

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and Roque Dalton dedicated so much of their work to

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Anastasio Aquino. I've ever read any of Okay, I've read

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one poem because the one you shared on here, I

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did if so, then I read down if so I

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had I know that one. Yeah, in the episode about

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the about Elmasote, but not like cause I know. I

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think we we played one episode that was like we

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did the notes first BOOKY tells and we talked about

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Raffina a Maaya. But then I did a second episode

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about it where I added way more information than I

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was just not as good as researching, I guess, m hm.

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So in that second one is where I have the

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poem where there's like an update on the trial or

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something like that. Uh huh. That's where we read that poem.

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And that was by Roque and so yeah, they dedicated

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some of the work to Najochino and writer Matile Elepez,

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who I was actually looking up her to talk about

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her because she is an activist and like one of

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the first women something okay, and and I was looking

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her up and then I saw she wrote a play

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called The Ballad of Nastasio, and then I was like,

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who's on and that's how this and that's how we

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arrived here at this episode, and so but she wrote that,

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and so she is on on the list to be

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a topic herself. But yeah, she wrote that play. And

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he's still seen as a symbol of rebellion and liberty

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by the left. There is a statue of him that

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you can see in Santiago Nonalco in La Pace today

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and it has some words on it that I actually

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forgot to write now, but the plaque says something inspirational

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and I think, look like that he led a rebellion,

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you know what? Okay, one sec Oh they every anniversary

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of his birthday, the town of San Diego No has

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this festival called Candles where he's commemorated. Oh nice, Yeah, okay,

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it's like his story basically. Oh yeah, this is another

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oppost this one on Instagram. Okay, I see. So it

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reads Anastasio Martyr, Aquino Rey the Los nonalcos So, king

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of the Nonualcos, which he declared himself. If we recall

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from the episode Nacio and Santiago No Quintabri, the meal Imaria,

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the San Carlos Murio Fusilado, Iluego, Illego, the Capitol, Julio,

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the Meal or Jacinto. And then there's a list of

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descendants on the plaque. Oh nice, It's crapped by the

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flowers so I can't see it, but basically it just

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says where he was born, who his parents were, and

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that he was the leader of rebellion against you know,

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the Spanish. What I find, uh ironic is that there's

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these like Salvi pages on Instagram, like Salvi Price, and

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they'll post his picture and then a page with the

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name forever comments like who would be persecuting him if

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it was times No exactly, be back Akino or Anastasio quo.

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And I'm like, do you know what this? What he symbolizes?

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Please shut the fuck up. Wow? So, yeah, that was

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the rebellion of Anastasio A. I love that. Yeah. I

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didn't know about him. I feel like I actually have

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vaguely heard of him somewhere. I feel like I have

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seen his poster maybe, or his poster his statue, so

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I recognize bits and pieces. Once you were like talking

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about it, Oh, I did not at all. Here's another

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side by side of the statue and what he might

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have looked like but this is what I'm saying that

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like the Dorians like idolze him. Oh look look the same,

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look like it does our dad just like him. Yes,

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like it's it's crazy anyway. Yeah, those are my notes.

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Amazing Again, short episodes were in ketchup mode. So yeah,

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just a story of rebellion and resistance and how that

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resistance it it lives on. It took a long time,

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and yeah, I know it went on because even one

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hundred years after Anastatis rebellion, then we have the rebellion

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of the indigenous and then the Communist Party it was

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happening at the same time, which led to Lama Danza,

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but then Lama Danta and the you know, attempted genocide

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of the Bill. It wasn't enough two fully, it's never

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enough to fully repress the people because then you know,

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the civil war happened and now there's still activists, you know,

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calling out the book that the regime, and it's like,

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I don't know, somewhere, I don't know if it was

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like a show or what I was watching, but somewhere

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it's at like tyranny is not natural, and it's like

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people are always somewhere are always like resistant because it's natural,

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and so yeah, this is just like another sign of

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that because time and time again the people have resisted

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and will continue to So so yeah, that was amazing. Yeah.

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Anything to add before we end the episode, I don't

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can do so by supporting us on Patreon at Patreon

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dot com. Slash studio as an own podcast