Feb. 12, 2026

Marcos Xiorro

Marcos Xiorro

Marcos Xiorro was an enslaved Black man who led an uprising against sugarcane plantation owners in 1821 Puerto Rico. Cristina tells Carmen about Marcos Xiorro and a brief history of slavery in PR. Then, they do Latin American news segment, with news about El Salvador, Chile and Costa Rica. 

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Sources for this episode: 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcos_Xiorro
https://web.archive.org/web/20141228151319/
http://slaverebellion.org/index.php?page=slave-resistances-in-latin-america
https://guides.loc.gov/world-of-1898/abolition-slavery-puerto-rico
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sugar_plantations_in_the_Caribbean
https://talkafricana.com/marcos-xiorro-the-african-slave-who-led-an-unsuccessful-revolt-in-puerto-rico-in-1821/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afro%E2%80%93Puerto_Ricans#First_Africans_in_Puerto_Ricohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_settlement_of_Puerto_Rico#Landing_and_first_settlement
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juan_Garrido

Sources for news segment:

https://apnews.com/article/el-salvador-chile-cecot-bukele-kast-3bbd44ff2c51ec0d54c8315e07e88cf0
https://apnews.com/article/election-chile-kast-jara-boric-trump-05f915fd5eda909c13fd283f90f8d8e5
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/12/15/who-is-jose-antonio-kast-chiles-newly-elected-far-right-leader
https://www.c-span.org/clip/white-house-event/el-salvador-president-speaks-at-national-prayer-breakfast-about-crackdown-on-gangs/5191994
https://english.elpais.com/international/2026-02-09/el-salvadors-attorney-general-freezes-a-moneylaundering-investigation-into-venezuelan-oil-funds-that-implicates-nayib-bukele.html



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Hello, Hello, everyone.

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This is Carmen and Christina and this is Estoria Unknown,

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a podcast where we talk about Latin American history. Sometimes

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it's horrible and deals with table topics like racism, corruption,

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and genocide. But more than that, it's also bout resistance,

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power and community. I had a different topic ready for

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today's episode, but of course, after watching Benito Bowl, Oh

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my god, Benito bol Yes, all I wanted to do

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was talk about Puerto Rico. Bee fucking here exactly. So

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today I'm telling you about Marcos Siiro. Have you heard

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about Marco Sierro No I haven't. Oh well, he was

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an a slave black man who led an uprising against

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sugar cane plantation owners.

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Oh my god.

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It's so topical, so timely in eighteen twenty one. But

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before we get to that, let me give you some context. Context.

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We love context, we really do. So the Spanish were

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the first Europeans to introduce chattle slavery into the New World,

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to Cuba, Mexico, Peru, Puerto Rico, and Chile. The Spanish

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arrived in Bodinquen, which is Puerto Rico's real name, in

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fourteen eighty three, and that was Christopher Columbus's second voyage

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from Spain into the New World quote unquote, hm. He

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had seventeen ships with around one thy five hundred men.

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He landed in the island on November nineteenth of that

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year and named it, like it didn't already have a name,

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but he named it San Juan Bautista. Well, it didn't

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have a name because he discovered it actually of course. Yeah, yeah,

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nothing existed before Christopher Columbus. No BC actually stands for

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before Columbus exactly, but the official colonization wouldn't begin until

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fifteen oh nine. When Columbus first landed, he was greeted

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by some tainos, who he then took back to Spain

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to show them the Spanish crown as examples of like, oh,

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look at all this fun stuff waiting for us in

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the New World, like as they were.

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The fun stuff for their stuff.

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Yeahs, yeah, he took back some dainos to show, like,

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look at this commodity waiting for us in the New World,

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which he also had like goal to show them. And

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so the Spanish then send another expedition in fifteen oh nine.

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Some sources at fifteen oh eight, and this expedition was

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led by Juan Ponte de Leon. I know that name,

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of course he should. And he arrived with the people

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which side note. One of them included a free black

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man named Juan Garrido, a conquistador from Congo.

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Oh wow. Yeah.

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So apparently he at some point left Congo of his

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own will, not like taken like others were taken from Congo,

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and he made his way to Portugal, where he converted

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to Catholicism. Wow yeah. And then at some point enslaved

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his own people. Yeah m hm, and assisted in the

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colonization of the New World. Oh wow, I know that.

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According to historian Ricardo Alegria, Juan Garrido was the first

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free African man to set foot on the island, and

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there were a few other free black men on this expedition.

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They were usually employed by someone Spanish or Portuguese, and like,

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if you take into account Brazil, but in this case

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the Spanish, and so Juan Garrido accompanied Juan ponzad Leon

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and his employer or associate, Pedro Garrido around the Caribbean.

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No relation. Oh well, let me tell you.

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It was common for these free black men to take

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the name of the last name of their Spanish like employers,

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because not all of them were enslaved. Some were enslaved

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and taken with them on these expeditions, but others went

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of their own free will, but usually like as assistance too,

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or like working under another Spanish colonizer. And they took

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their last names like they were just like giving.

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These new names or took these new names.

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Yeah, and so that's why he his last name is Garrido,

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like Pedro Garrido.

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Oh, it's Pedro Garrido.

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Was not another free black man, No, he is employer.

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Were both like free black men. They were brothers.

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It was crazy.

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Oh no, okay, this is his Spanish like boss. I

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guess you could say, okay. Yeah. And so Juan Garrido

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went with Juan de Leon and Pedro Garrido around the Caribbean,

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like helping in the colonization of Puerto Rico and all that.

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Later he joined at nan Cortes and the expedition to Mexico.

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Ew yeah m hm, and fully like participated and yeah,

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it was common for them to some not it was

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like not a huge number. It was like a small

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number of these African men who participated as voluntary expeditionaries.

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Conquissadors or axillaries is what they were known as their positions,

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I guess you could say, and like I said earlier,

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they were often given the last names of the Spanish employers. Okay, anyway,

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this expedition was met the one now in fifteen nine

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or eight, they met with Cacique Awuaevana, the leader of

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the Tainos, and Cacique Auevana tried to keep peace between

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the Tainos and the Spanish, but this would not last

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long because the Spanish came with the intention to mine

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the gold and to colonize of course, h So they

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quickly established rapartamiento, which was part of the encomenda system,

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and this made it so that each Spanish colonists would

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receive a fixed number of tainos available to them for

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forced and unpaid labor. Well.

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Thus in sleeping, the.

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Tainos and the Thaina were forced to work the gold mines,

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build Spanish forts do all their labor, and many died

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due to the conditions of this forced labor, as well

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as European diseases as well as like in just fighting

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their colonization. And that being said, of course, people don't

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just stand by and take their enslavement, Like, right, there's

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always uprisings resistance. Yeah, within a couple of years of

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fifteen o eight or nine, enslaved Tainos and Caribs, which

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isn't the other indigenous group that was like more in

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South Puerto Rico Celevan Tarn there was an uprising and

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so in fifteen eleven I Waibana the second trick, the

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Spanish colonizer named Diego Salcelo to go down to a

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river where he was ambushed and drowned. Drowned to prove

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that these Spanish colonizers were not gods but mere mortal men, okay,

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I mean with an experiment. Yeah, Sadly, this uprising was

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did with genocide. Juan Ponza Dalone ordered the shooting of

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six thousand Tainos and Caribes. Six thousand, I feel like

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that is like a hard number to grasp, like the

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just huge amount of people that was. Yeah, and so

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this this led many Tainos and Caribes to flee the island,

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die trying. Many chose to die by suicide then to

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be killed by the Spanish like suicide and infanticide basically

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became forms of rebellions, like a form of a revolution.

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Because that was better than what lay ahead, you know. Yeah,

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And many fled into the mountains to hide. But revolution persisted,

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as it always does, and there was another uprising in

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fifteen twelve, this time involving those enslaved by de Go Colone.

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Do you know who dey Go Colon is? His name

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sounds familiar?

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Oh my god?

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That week of the Christopher Columbus's son discussing if you

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remember in Spanish, he's what's his name, Christoval Cologne or

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Christopher Yeah, I don't remember, but yeah, the last name

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is Cologne.

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Anyway.

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Yeah, those enslaved by him rose up and this lasted

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a few months until the leaders of this uprising were

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captured and executed. After these two uprisings, Friar Bartolome the

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las Casas, a Spanish friar, protested the treatment of the

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Tainos to the Council of Burquos at the Spanish Court.

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He demanded their freedom, stating all of this was wrong.

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These were humans and future Christians and this was not

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a way for a future Christian to be treated because

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their mission in the New World was not to win, slave,

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to kill, to murder. It was to save the native

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population and to convert them to Christianity. And I mean,

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at least someone was speaking up for them, one of these,

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you know, colonizers. And so while he he was attempting

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to fight for the Tainos and for the Caribees, other

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Spanish colonists were also at this council, and they were

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worried about the last the loss of their labor. They

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argued that they needed this labor to work them to

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they're not going to work right, but for work to

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be done in the minds, to build their forts for

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sugar cane plantations.

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And as much as.

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The friar Bartolome fought for the Tainos, it seemed that

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in his fight for the Tainos, for the natives, he

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condemned Africans because from my from my understanding and my

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reading of multiple sources, it seems that it was his

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suggestion to free the Tainos, but to but to maintain

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a labor force. He was the one who suggested Africans. Yeah,

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didn't he say, like because they're soulless or they can't

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be civilized or something like that. Like, didn't he say,

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like because they're savages? And yeah, I think I just

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I think I listened to that when I was listening

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to what was I just listening harvest the vampire. Yeah,

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that's why that name is time is so familiar and

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so like terrible things continue to be terrible. Yeah, speaking

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of terrible, the Spanish ignored the friars please and continue

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to enslave the Tainos. But after this enslavement, this genocide, genocide,

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the sickness, like all of that, the population of the

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natives of bodinggen it was depleted. And so in fifteen seventeen,

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the Spanish granted each colonist the right to import twelve

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Africans to enslave. Oh my god, just all because they

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didn't want to do their fucking work, because they thought

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they were better than because God said they're better than

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everyone else. Fucked these people for real, No, for real,

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thus kicking off the slave trade in their colonies. In

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fifteen thirty there were one thy five hundred enslaved in

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Puerto Rico. In fifteen fifty five, that number was fifteen thousand. Damn,

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that's a big jump. It is a big jump, and

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it only got bigger by sixteen hundred, even though they

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of course were still around. The Tainos were completely removed

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from the census by the Spanish, and some could say

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that the condition of enslavement of Africans in Puerto Rico

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wasn't as terrible as like Cuba or Brazil, or like

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the US, because they were allowed some freedoms.

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They were given an area of land to maintain.

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For their own crops, they were allowed to have a family,

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some were provided A big number was provided education by

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their enslavers, which then allowed them to educate their children.

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And so the enslaves were seen as superior to the tainos.

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Really that's surprising, yes, because the Spanish felt that they were.

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It was easier for the enslaved Africans to assimilate to

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According to the Spanish, the enslaved Africans were more willing

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to learn Spanish, they were more willing to convert to Christianity.

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Maybe that's because they were enslaved, right and like taken

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taken from their homes and trafficked across the Atlantic.

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That's as ridiculous to me. They're so willing to learn,

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it's like bitch.

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They were enslaved, yes, exactly, and this put in the

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hierarchy of like the social classes or whatever regional classes.

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They were put above the tainos, which it was surprising

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to read about to me, but of course many continued

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their own religious practices in secret.

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Yeah.

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Over the years, Spanish and slavers had children with their

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enslaved as well as with Thino women, which is now

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where we get all the other classes that were later

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added on, like mestisos mulatos, there's like another, there's different

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categories and they're all, you know.

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Place in order of who's better.

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Mulatos were like, then are you a free one or

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an enslaved one? Am I? Who was time to come

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up with all these hierarchies man like, Well, they weren't working,

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so they are all the free time to hire, to

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cast people and rank them in Yeah, based on eugienis

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and racist beliefs exactly, That's why they had time. In

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seventeen eighty nine, El Negro, the Black Code was passed,

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which allowed an enslaved person to be freed under specific

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circumstances like purchasing themselves from their enslaver, which and I

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don't remember if you remember our episode on Celestina Correro.

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The name sounds familiar. Was she the one that was

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like a teacher?

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Yes, she's basically known as like the person who brought

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public education to Puerto Rico like her and her brother

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Rafael Correro. And in that episode, I was like, back,

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you know, hears ago movi we did that. I was like,

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I don't know how her father was born like a

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free black man.

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Oh, that's how.

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He purchased himself his freedom and then his children. So

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that's why they were enslaved. Yeah, So just in case

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any will listen to that's that's it was the Black Code. Also,

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this was a little more rare, but if a slave

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enslaver was found to be a traitor to the Spanish crown,

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it would make them free. Oh wow, Yeah, it was

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very rare for this to happen, but it was written

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in the Black Code. By this point, when the Black

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Code was written seventeen eighty nine, there were two hundred

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and sixty thousand enslaved, outnumbering the Spanish population, and then

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you add to that the mixed face population. They were outnumbered,

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which made them paranoid, and by eighteen seventy three there

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were more than twenty uprisings by the enslaved. In eighteen twelve,

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in the Puerto Rican capital San Juan Bautista, around Christmas,

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a conspiracy was spread. There was a rumor that the

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Spanish Cortes extra Ordinarias so like a court declared that

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slaves should be free, and then surrounding areas heard the

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same rumor, and it just spread and spread. It turned

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out that this was a bill proposed by a Mexican

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member of the so like. This was still not Mexico,

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but a Spanish person in Mexico proposed this bill to

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be applied to yeah, or for all the colonies oh

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ic ic Yeah, and so had this bill been passed,

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this would have abolished the slave trade. Oh okay, okay,

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and so Ramon power E Hieralt that's his last name,

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a Spanish naval hero and captain in the navy and

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a member of this court, was there when this was proposed,

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and he wrote a letter to his mom after this

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session court whatever, and he was apparently also one of

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the proposers of this bill anyway, So following the meeting session,

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he wrote to his mom that if this proposal was approved,

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then she should be the first to grant the people

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she enslaved their freedom.

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Somehow one of the enslaves like people under her found

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this letter and they spread the news. Only they said, hey,

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we're free. They like, I don't know, misconstrued the letter. Yeah,

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and so that's how the rumor spread, which led to

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several confrontations between enslaved, the military and enslavers, which was

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just like contributing to unrest that spread from San Juan

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to surrounding areas. This was worsened by the fact that

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in eighteen eleven, before this letter, slavery was abolished in

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Spain itself, the motherland of Spain, but not in the colonies,

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and they're not applied to the colonies, so Gouba, Puerto Rico,

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San Domingo didn't apply and slave Cubans. They began to revolt,

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causing unrest in the region, and of course, like adding

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to this, the Haitian Revolution is also happening. In eighteen twelve, though,

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adding fuel to the fire, there was again another rumor,

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Oh no, sorry, this is the same letter, the rumor

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that slavery had been abolished, and so enslaved people began

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to demand their freedom, stand up to their enslavers. Again,

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people were arrested. There was clashes between these people, between

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the groups and Encorto. The unrest grew and grew, which

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leads us to Marcos Sierro, who led one of these

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uprisings okay or attempted uprisings. Marcos Sierro was the name

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he was given. His real name and origin story have

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been lost to history. It is not known where he

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was born, what region of Africa he was trafficked from.

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Like these details have been lost. All we know is

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that Marco Sierro is a name he was given and

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that he was enslaved by a man named Aimed Vicente Andino,

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a militia captain who owned a sugar plantation in Bayamon

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and Bayamon, by the way, by this year eighteen twenty one,

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was the leading producer of sugar in island through the

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hands of the enslaves, not the Spanish. Marcos Sierro planned

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this uprising to take place on July twenty seventh, eighteen

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twenty one, during religious during the religious celebrations dedicated to

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Saint James, because they would be distracted exactly, and sugar

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cane fields were vital to his plan for the uprising

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and so seeing those sugar kinge fields during the Benito

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Bowl beautiful. So this uprising was to take place at

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midnight and it involved different groups of other enslaved from

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neighboring aciendas in Bayamon, which included Angus McBean.

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What the fucking name is.

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That, Angus McBean, Cornelius Courtrightlino and Fernando Fernandez. And so yeah,

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I'm enslaved from these I say, that's we're all part

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of this plan. They were to escape their plantations and

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mean at the sugar cane fields of the enslaver Miguel Figetis.

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There they would grab swords already hidden in a bundle

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of cut cane, which would be they are ready for

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them across the path in the field.

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Smart, smart, very.

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Then they would start their attack at the mayor's house

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and the next part of the plan was to set

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fire to the town and cut the throat of all whites.

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Which listen, you won't you won't find me judging that

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because these are people signing up to their oppressors. I mean,

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they had no freedom at all, Like what would you

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do for your freedom? Yeah, And it is the right

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of all to stand up against oppressors in whatever means

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they find right to them. You know. Yeah, it's because

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there's people that are like if you guys were around

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during like slavery, slavery, you would be like justifying it. Yeah,

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people saying that now about other people, you know. Anyway,

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Mario and Pedro another two enslaved from one of these

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other aciendas. They would then inform another group to carry

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out the same plan and another plantation, and so there

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were four separate groups to cover the four corners of Bayamon,

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and after taking Bayamon, they would march for the capital

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San Juan. Their meeting point was the Martin Pegna Bridge,

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where the other groups from Rio Piedras, Palos Eco and

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Guaynabo would be there waiting for them. Then all of

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these groups would head for the Media Floridas Hill district

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where they would declare. One source said Mario would be

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declared king, but another sort of said Marco Sierro, which

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makes more sense to me because he's the one was

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like the liner of it. Yeah, yeah, so that's the

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one that makes for sense. But both sources named or

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different sources named these two separate people. But unfortunately the

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plan never came to fruition because of an enslaved person

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named Ambrosio who was loyal to his enslaver Miguel Figettis,

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which is the plantation where they were supposed to meet.

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Yeah.

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Plus, and I don't know if it's as much as

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that he was like loyal to his enslaver or that

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he had an incentive to snitch, right, And this is

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how these systems are set up.

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This is why they made this back.

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Then, with encouraging like people to snitch on each other,

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creating that system of hierarchy with the house what they

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call the house slaves right against the fuel slaves. The

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I forgot the name, but the person who would be

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like punishing the enslaved people, oh yeah, the out line,

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and some people call him enforcers. Sometimes they were called

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like aciendas and like they use the same the same system,

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the same system, and all the way to present day

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with the hotlines being set up to snitch on your

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neighbor in Latin America for example, of it or yes, exactly, yeah,

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And so the Spanish colony, the government they rewarded any

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enslaved person who reported these kinds of conspiracies by paying

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them five hundred vessels, which would buy their freedom.

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Damn.

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I mean, I feel like anybody could fall for this

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or be like, well, my freedom.

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It's hard.

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I think a lot a lot of times people think

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about themselves like, oh my freedom, I'm okay right now,

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So I don't really care what happens to other people.

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Yeah exactly, So I'm Brossio told on them, and Miguel

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Figuettes went to the mayor, who quickly mobilized five hundred soldiers.

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These soldiers then pursued and captured the conspirators. Sixty one

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were in prison in Baiamon and San Juan, but Marcos

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Sierro managed to escape this this time, but he was

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caught on August fourteenth in Mayagues. The next actually, the

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day after he was caught, August fifteenth, eighteen twenty one,

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the court trials against the sixty one were completed, and seventeen,

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who were named the planners, the leaders of the yeah

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ring leaders, they were executed and it's not confirmed, it

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was never documented, but Marcocierro, he was tried separately, and

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like the outcome of that trial is not written anywhere,

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but it's likely that he was also executed. Oh so

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there's like just no information after that about him. Yeah, oh,

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I mean it makes sense if he was the leader

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of it, yeah, exactly. The Spanish believes that Jean Pierre Boyer,

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the then president of it Haiti had assisted the conspirators

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of this uprising, and they were correct. The Haitian the

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Haitian government was trying to help all the enslaved because

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they were like, well, we rose up, we were able

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to end slavery through this uprising, and they wanted the

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same for their people, of course, so yeah, they.

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They helped, they helped, and what and what.

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And well which And at the same time, there was

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uprisings in Cuba also happening, and more smaller revolts continue

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to take place, leading up to El Grito de Lattice,

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which I assume you know what this is. No Eldo

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Latte began Puerto Rico's independence, the war for independence against

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pain and at eight oh I love it, yeah, same, same, Yes,

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we love a grito, but that's what it's called. Which many,

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many enslaved participated in this uprising, which sometimes they're left

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out of the narrative. But yeah, they were a big

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part of the war. I mean sense that they wouldn't

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want to be that, they would want to be independent

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of Spain, the country that was enslaving them, you know,

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exactly exactly. And slavery wouldn't be officially abolished until March

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twenty second, eighteen seventy three. And even then it wasn't

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a full emancipation. They had to the enslaves had to

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buy their own freedom at whatever price their enslavers set. Bullshit,

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And so because of this, many continue to work for

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their former enslavers under a type of indentured servitude, which

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is another form of enslavement. But this indentured servitude did

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have a limit of three years, and so if they

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didn't pay their price set by the enslaver by those

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three years, they would still be free. So within the

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three years with yes, exactly, and of course leaving out

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of this because we're only talking about like a brief

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history of slavery in Puerto Rico along with the uprising

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of Marco Sierro being out, like when the US then

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invaded what you have talked about in other episodes we have, Yeah,

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but after las and after winning the war against Spain,

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it was like the US helped with their own interests

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in mind, you don't, Yeah, and that a whole other

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thing which we have talked about and we will continue

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to talk about. Yeah, And so yeah, that was the

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story of Marcos. Okay, cool, cool, love that hate that

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it didn't work. How different things might have been. I

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always think about that. And now we have something we

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haven't done in a while, but we do do it

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once in a while our b Bulsha tegment. Yes, and

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if a new year and wondering why we do this,

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it's because we are we don't like dictatorships. So that

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also that I can't even remember when we first started

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our book le Bucha segment.

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It's been a minute. It's been a minute.

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I think it's like three years ago or so. Yeah,

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I don't know when the podcast started. Shortly after and yeah,

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pretty recent after we started. Yeah, okay, So back in January,

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Costa Rica hosted Want to Be President but Actual Dictator

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Bukele to inaugurate their new mega prison, Yes, modeled after

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Secote and constructed with the help of the Bukel administration.

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And there Bukell said the following quote everything we did

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in se quote will be replicated any Costa Rican version

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end quote. This facility is going to be named CaCO

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unfortunate name. Yeah, sorry to say, yeah, Center for High

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Containment of Organized Crime, and it's eleven miles outside of

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San Jose, the capital of Costa Rica. It will have

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the capacity of five one hundred inmates, which increases the

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country's prison capacity by forty percent. Surely this prison will

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be put to good slash evil use. As the right

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wing candidate Lauda Fernandez Selgado won the election on these

448
00:28:15.319 --> 00:28:19.319
seconds of February, and some say with US interference, which

449
00:28:19.359 --> 00:28:25.680
I fully believe. Yeah, crist inside She and the previous

450
00:28:25.720 --> 00:28:30.079
president Chavis of the same party. So they both ran

451
00:28:30.200 --> 00:28:35.240
on platforms that mentioned mass imprisonment, but as always disguised

452
00:28:35.720 --> 00:28:39.039
as safety, right right, Like they said safety in their speeches,

453
00:28:39.079 --> 00:28:42.000
but like we're saying it as what it really is,

454
00:28:42.000 --> 00:28:46.880
mass imprisonment, and under the message of safety is always

455
00:28:47.079 --> 00:28:51.759
usually underlying a system, a carcural system of mass imprisonment.

456
00:28:51.880 --> 00:28:54.400
Like that's just usually how things.

457
00:28:54.240 --> 00:28:56.319
Are, because they never say what they mean, right, because

458
00:28:56.319 --> 00:28:58.119
if they said what they meant, no one would be

459
00:28:58.160 --> 00:29:01.400
for it. Like family value, Oh what does that actually mean?

460
00:29:02.480 --> 00:29:09.680
Oppressing anyone who doesn't fit into the heteronormative pattern, you know, Yeah,

461
00:29:09.799 --> 00:29:11.839
although people would probably support that too if they just

462
00:29:11.839 --> 00:29:14.839
outright send it. No true, yeah, but anyway, And speaking

463
00:29:14.880 --> 00:29:18.960
of writing presidents in Latin America, Chile's president cast son

464
00:29:19.000 --> 00:29:25.599
of a Nazi literal son of a Nazi visited in

465
00:29:25.640 --> 00:29:28.480
Saralo at the end of January to tour sikop and

466
00:29:28.559 --> 00:29:33.160
to discuss adopting and Sarlod's security measures to Chile. And

467
00:29:33.319 --> 00:29:38.039
just another reminder, he's the son of a Nazi and

468
00:29:38.079 --> 00:29:40.799
not only that, but his older brother was a Chicago

469
00:29:40.880 --> 00:29:44.359
boy for Pinochet, which we have pet episodes on. If

470
00:29:44.359 --> 00:29:45.960
you like you're like, what is what is all this?

471
00:29:46.079 --> 00:29:47.880
What is what does this mean? We'll listen to our

472
00:29:47.960 --> 00:29:51.160
series on Pinochet and then a separate episode on the

473
00:29:51.240 --> 00:29:54.880
Chicago the School of Chicago. Yeah, and gust himself as

474
00:29:54.960 --> 00:29:57.839
reminisced on the good old days of the Dictatorship mind you,

475
00:29:57.880 --> 00:30:02.079
a seventeen year brutal dictator ship where thousands died and

476
00:30:02.119 --> 00:30:09.440
were tortured, others were stolen, Yes, appeared m the thrown

477
00:30:09.519 --> 00:30:13.000
out of planes into the sea. And he's like, oh

478
00:30:13.079 --> 00:30:15.839
I do shure missiles, good old days. It's nostalgic for him,

479
00:30:16.400 --> 00:30:19.759
Oh my god. And he's also stated his admiration for

480
00:30:19.920 --> 00:30:22.880
Ice and there are military style raids on Mi Greet

481
00:30:22.880 --> 00:30:26.319
communities in the US. And of course he loves Trump

482
00:30:26.359 --> 00:30:30.400
and Buckle bad times, bad times everywhere. Yes, speaking of

483
00:30:30.440 --> 00:30:35.519
Trump and yes. These two were just at the National

484
00:30:35.599 --> 00:30:39.599
Prayer Breakfast where both he and Trump spoke Buokla and Trump.

485
00:30:40.000 --> 00:30:40.240
Yes.

486
00:30:40.720 --> 00:30:44.839
And for those wondering what the National Prayer Breakfast, I

487
00:30:44.839 --> 00:30:47.119
actually learned about this because I was watching a documentary

488
00:30:48.279 --> 00:30:50.000
about Oh my God.

489
00:30:50.200 --> 00:30:51.640
C Street. Have you heard of that?

490
00:30:52.119 --> 00:30:56.799
No, it's like a Christian nationalist almost like secret group

491
00:30:57.400 --> 00:31:00.000
that wait, I know you forget it.

492
00:31:00.119 --> 00:31:02.599
Family. Yeah, the Family. I've done this.

493
00:31:02.839 --> 00:31:06.000
I've heard of this, and I think the documentary is

494
00:31:06.039 --> 00:31:09.160
called The Family, if I remembering right, yes, yeah, And

495
00:31:09.240 --> 00:31:13.319
so anyway, there are fixtures at the National Prayer Breakfast,

496
00:31:14.599 --> 00:31:17.920
and it's supposed to be well, it's a yearly event

497
00:31:18.039 --> 00:31:21.640
held in DC, usually the first Thursday in February. Also,

498
00:31:21.680 --> 00:31:23.839
I was watching a video and there was two National

499
00:31:23.880 --> 00:31:26.000
Prayer Breakfasts this year, but I'm not sure why.

500
00:31:26.079 --> 00:31:27.720
But I did.

501
00:31:28.400 --> 00:31:31.160
I went during that from the New Evangelicals YouTube channel.

502
00:31:31.200 --> 00:31:33.559
Someone that I know why. I was going to look

503
00:31:33.559 --> 00:31:36.400
into that, but I forgot about it. So it's supposed

504
00:31:36.440 --> 00:31:38.680
to be very sorry, I'm just laughing about that. It's

505
00:31:38.680 --> 00:31:42.319
supposed to be a bipartisan event of spiritual reflection, but

506
00:31:42.400 --> 00:31:46.519
it's more like a right wing Christian nationalist thing. Dwight

507
00:31:46.559 --> 00:31:49.880
Eisenhower was the first to attend one, but they've been

508
00:31:49.920 --> 00:31:52.920
happening for seventy plus years and since then, presidents have

509
00:31:52.920 --> 00:31:57.359
attended every year since Eisenhower. So at this year's National

510
00:31:57.400 --> 00:32:02.200
Prayer Breakfast, Bugelet credit credited God for the crackdown on

511
00:32:02.240 --> 00:32:05.640
gang violence. He said, it's impossible to have such big

512
00:32:05.720 --> 00:32:07.480
change without the intervention of God.

513
00:32:07.839 --> 00:32:09.240
And it's like, bitch, that was all you.

514
00:32:09.319 --> 00:32:12.720
What do you talk about? That was you and your corruption. Yeah,

515
00:32:12.759 --> 00:32:16.839
and colluding with the gangs. Yeah, like every other fucking

516
00:32:16.880 --> 00:32:21.759
president has before. Anyone's like, shut up, we know everyone

517
00:32:21.759 --> 00:32:22.400
else did too.

518
00:32:23.000 --> 00:32:23.240
Yeah.

519
00:32:24.559 --> 00:32:27.960
Then you ACQ saw therowing gangs of worshiping Satan. Oh

520
00:32:28.039 --> 00:32:32.279
my god, ridiculous, And that the Satan worshiping gangs operate

521
00:32:32.319 --> 00:32:34.680
in the US too, and he said he said the

522
00:32:34.720 --> 00:32:38.279
gangs didn't just murder, rape, extort, they also worship Sayan

523
00:32:38.640 --> 00:32:42.039
just straight up literally end a quote. He said, he

524
00:32:42.119 --> 00:32:44.839
said that just straight up, straight up literally.

525
00:32:44.440 --> 00:32:45.039
Oh my god.

526
00:32:45.079 --> 00:32:47.920
I can't with him. Well, he's the coolest dictator, so

527
00:32:48.319 --> 00:32:51.680
there is. I don't think they straight up like literally

528
00:32:51.799 --> 00:32:55.319
worship Satan, but some adutles do have like devil horn.

529
00:32:57.519 --> 00:33:00.680
So I don't this essentially did it's wrong.

530
00:33:01.759 --> 00:33:04.079
He might be right about this, but also let's remember

531
00:33:04.559 --> 00:33:09.359
that not everyone in prison at SECOD or any other

532
00:33:09.559 --> 00:33:12.400
prison in the Lord is a gang member. A lot

533
00:33:12.480 --> 00:33:14.960
of people are not. They're just accused of gag member.

534
00:33:15.559 --> 00:33:18.920
But due process has been suspended four years now because

535
00:33:18.920 --> 00:33:21.359
of the state of exception. So exactly, the state doesn't

536
00:33:21.359 --> 00:33:23.440
have to prove that you're a gay member. They just

537
00:33:23.480 --> 00:33:25.279
say you're a gay member and arrest you.

538
00:33:25.799 --> 00:33:26.039
Yeah.

539
00:33:26.200 --> 00:33:29.279
Yeah, so there's that. Yes, yes, we had to Yeah,

540
00:33:29.319 --> 00:33:33.000
of course clarify that. Also at the prayer breakfast, Trump

541
00:33:33.079 --> 00:33:40.039
took the opportunity to accumulate his famib and reinforced racist

542
00:33:40.039 --> 00:33:42.319
tropes about Soudorians. Oh and so he went on to

543
00:33:42.400 --> 00:33:46.200
repeat what he always says about Southdorians not sending their best,

544
00:33:46.519 --> 00:33:49.559
how their the meanest and with vicious criminals, and that

545
00:33:49.640 --> 00:33:52.920
he send us some bad ones and is it true

546
00:33:52.960 --> 00:33:54.839
you won't send us a few of your good ones?

547
00:33:55.160 --> 00:33:56.400
And he straight up said that.

548
00:33:56.680 --> 00:33:59.640
He turned to him, straight up, literally, he's straight to

549
00:34:00.039 --> 00:34:03.440
He just straight up literally turned to Bukele and literally

550
00:34:03.440 --> 00:34:07.200
directed that Abu Yeah, and Bukela is like just smiling

551
00:34:07.279 --> 00:34:10.519
like a dumb ass, what's going on? And which Trump

552
00:34:10.639 --> 00:34:13.880
and then trumped, Yeah, literally, I saw this exchange. I'm like,

553
00:34:14.119 --> 00:34:17.119
you're you're stupid, You're all stupid. Trump was like, look,

554
00:34:17.119 --> 00:34:18.119
he's just going on.

555
00:34:18.519 --> 00:34:19.920
He's just sitting there. What's going on.

556
00:34:20.320 --> 00:34:22.440
It's like, what's going on? He's like, but you're not

557
00:34:22.440 --> 00:34:23.960
supposed to make fun of me in person like this

558
00:34:24.159 --> 00:34:27.360
or in public like this, right right. And one more

559
00:34:27.440 --> 00:34:31.360
update it was reported by empayis that on February ninth,

560
00:34:31.519 --> 00:34:36.000
and Sarlo's Attorney General froze a money laundering investigation into

561
00:34:36.119 --> 00:34:40.559
Venezuelan oil funds that implicated Bukele. According to the investigation,

562
00:34:40.719 --> 00:34:44.280
the president received nearly three point three million dollars from

563
00:34:44.280 --> 00:34:49.239
companies linked to Alba Petroleos consortium. The case was opened

564
00:34:49.239 --> 00:34:52.800
in twenty nineteen by then Attorney General Raul Melara, who

565
00:34:52.840 --> 00:34:57.360
was investigating Bukelets administration for alleged corruption and supposed to

566
00:34:57.440 --> 00:35:02.159
packs with Msertine and Barrio Diso Gains. Melaa was removed

567
00:35:02.440 --> 00:35:05.159
from from office on May first, twenty twenty one.

568
00:35:05.440 --> 00:35:06.039
The same day.

569
00:35:06.119 --> 00:35:08.239
The same day, the ruling party took full control of

570
00:35:08.280 --> 00:35:12.400
the Legislative Assembly, preventing the investigation from moving forward to

571
00:35:12.440 --> 00:35:14.559
the court, which is one step and the ladder of

572
00:35:14.599 --> 00:35:16.840
authoritianism that Bukela was enacting.

573
00:35:17.480 --> 00:35:17.719
Yes.

574
00:35:17.960 --> 00:35:23.599
Yeah, that day, lawmakers aligned with Bukele also dismissed, also

575
00:35:23.639 --> 00:35:26.920
dismissed the justices of the Constitutional Chamber of the Supreme

576
00:35:27.000 --> 00:35:31.800
Court and appointed five replacements who were loyalists loyal to Bukele.

577
00:35:32.119 --> 00:35:35.119
Get another step in the latter. Yeah.

578
00:35:35.599 --> 00:35:37.159
On May thirty first, twenty.

579
00:35:36.960 --> 00:35:40.360
Nineteen, one day before Bukele took office, the Attorney General's

580
00:35:40.400 --> 00:35:44.559
Office Andre Melaa raided the offices of Alba Petrolios and

581
00:35:44.639 --> 00:35:48.719
Sarvalo SEM and twenty seven other companies linked to this group,

582
00:35:49.239 --> 00:35:55.719
including Alba Limentos SA, Alba Gas SA, and innes valosas S,

583
00:35:56.320 --> 00:36:00.159
a firm supposedly dedicated to financing real estate projects. Two

584
00:36:00.199 --> 00:36:03.639
former prosecutors with direct knowledge of the case saying two

585
00:36:03.639 --> 00:36:06.760
former prosecutors that were fired of course, yeah, of course

586
00:36:06.760 --> 00:36:09.960
they were fired because let's say, actually investigating, yeah, and

587
00:36:10.039 --> 00:36:13.440
trying to hold Bokele in his regime to account.

588
00:36:13.880 --> 00:36:15.880
So of course they were fired. Yeah.

589
00:36:15.960 --> 00:36:19.880
And so they said that as of December, there's been

590
00:36:19.920 --> 00:36:22.519
no progress in this infistigation because of course that's why

591
00:36:22.519 --> 00:36:24.239
they were fired, so that there would be no more

592
00:36:24.239 --> 00:36:27.800
progress in this investigation. Quote, not a single sheet of

593
00:36:27.800 --> 00:36:30.519
paper has moved in that file since the legato arrived

594
00:36:30.559 --> 00:36:34.840
at the Attorney General's office. The outcome of that investigation

595
00:36:35.000 --> 00:36:37.320
is not convenient for him or for the president. One

596
00:36:37.320 --> 00:36:41.079
of them said, under the condition of anonym noonymity and

597
00:36:41.159 --> 00:36:45.239
noonymity economic clothes enough, okay, And of course they're afraid

598
00:36:45.239 --> 00:36:45.880
for their lives.

599
00:36:46.039 --> 00:36:47.599
People people run away.

600
00:36:47.519 --> 00:36:57.400
From a load for actually investigating crimes, alleged crimes, and

601
00:36:57.440 --> 00:37:01.599
for exposing his wrongdoing, and for that, if they don't

602
00:37:01.719 --> 00:37:04.639
run away and escape, they are put in prison.

603
00:37:04.880 --> 00:37:06.880
And I think him.

604
00:37:06.480 --> 00:37:10.840
Boule at this National Prayer breakfast stating and repeating how

605
00:37:10.960 --> 00:37:15.239
the Satan worshiping gangsters are in the US two is

606
00:37:15.280 --> 00:37:18.800
paving the path for tps to be taken away from Salvadorians.

607
00:37:18.880 --> 00:37:21.079
Oh yeah, so they can be deported back to Sarador.

608
00:37:21.199 --> 00:37:24.280
So then he can imprison more people, not only in SECO,

609
00:37:24.400 --> 00:37:27.679
but all of the prisons. And SECO is one of

610
00:37:27.719 --> 00:37:31.400
the most eyes on it. But there's rest tons of prisons.

611
00:37:31.719 --> 00:37:32.039
Yeah.

612
00:37:32.920 --> 00:37:35.840
Also worth pointing out. I don't know if I wrote

613
00:37:35.840 --> 00:37:38.800
it in these notes. Actually it was kind of del Gato,

614
00:37:38.800 --> 00:37:41.800
the Attorney General, is also implicated in this investigation that

615
00:37:41.840 --> 00:37:45.679
he froze. I don't think you had wrote it, but

616
00:37:45.719 --> 00:37:48.039
it was kind of assumed like when yeah, I didn't

617
00:37:48.039 --> 00:37:50.239
implicity you write it. But just to make it very clear,

618
00:37:51.000 --> 00:37:54.400
they are both implicated in this and this is the

619
00:37:54.440 --> 00:37:57.960
first time that has been accused of some sort of

620
00:37:58.000 --> 00:38:02.400
fraud like backing COVID that money went to him and

621
00:38:02.440 --> 00:38:04.800
his friend and his family, not to the people of

622
00:38:05.840 --> 00:38:08.440
going back to his days as mayor.

623
00:38:09.840 --> 00:38:12.960
Yes, so yeah, so what.

624
00:38:12.880 --> 00:38:17.960
Was that thing you would always say, stupid slogan, no,

625
00:38:17.960 --> 00:38:20.280
no file does some shit like that. It wasn't that exactly,

626
00:38:20.320 --> 00:38:21.840
but it was the one that sentiment and it's like, yeah,

627
00:38:21.880 --> 00:38:26.840
you first, you first stopped sealing from the people. Yeah,

628
00:38:27.320 --> 00:38:30.719
so yeah, yeah, those are some updates on book at

629
00:38:30.719 --> 00:38:31.199
it because.

630
00:38:31.000 --> 00:38:33.800
It's been a while. It has been a minute, it has.

631
00:38:34.119 --> 00:38:37.199
Okay, I guess this brings us to the end of

632
00:38:37.360 --> 00:38:40.880
the episode. Yeah, I believe. So thank you everyone for listening.

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