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Hi, This is Christina and this is Estoria's Unknown, a
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podcast where and this is Estoria's Unknown, a podcast where
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more than that, it's also about resistance, power and community.
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our regular episode out. Carmen is working very hard on
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Part four of the History of Border Patrol, but it's
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a Part five of this series of ours in the meantime. Though,
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the Portland Frog, something about Trompass saying he's not getting
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organization that has been helping car wash workers who were
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unable to leave their homes due to the increasing ice
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rates in La County. As you know, ever since these
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mass deportations began, the car washers in La County have
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been targeted heavily and many are afraid to leave their homes.
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And what Clean does is provide groceries to those that
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cannot work because of what Ice is doing in the area.
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our donations have been going to lately. And otherwise, enjoy
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we'll be back next week with our normal episode.
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Okay, and then in other news, oh about ice pointing
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a weapon. It's like we knew, I think we knew
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this was going to happen, but still the pictures are alarming,
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and it's not new new, it's new at this scale. Yeah,
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but they've done things like this before, but again not
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at this level. But I'm talking about this picture and
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I'll describe it for those that are Yeah, so we'll
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put the picture up here. But this picture that we
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are showing right now is from an article from the
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Chicago Sun Times and a Border Patrol agent so the
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patch says SRT and went. They keep putting shit on
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their uniforms and I'm like, what are these what is that?
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It's like a task force? What are these letters? Okay?
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And I did look that up. I read that. Yeah,
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oh okay. This looks like a young man, possibly a teen,
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I'm not sure, but young adult, young adult, Yeah, young adult.
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He has his hands up. They're pointing their giant fucking
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weapon at him. Uh. There's another like young looking kid
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behind them, who I'm wondering, what's going on there? This
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kid in white usum, he's like yeah, in between them,
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and yeah, there's just a bunch of them surrounding this
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kid who clearly has nothingness in his hands. And I
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did have the link. I have the link for the newspaper.
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Where did it go there we go. So this happened
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this Tuesday morning, Yeah, yesterday morning. So fans ram suv
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after chase down residential street in Chicago and then they
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tear gas a crowd. So the crash happened late Tuesday
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morning near one hundred and fifth Street and Avenue North
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in the East Side neighborhood. Two men being pursued were arrested,
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and so were two bystanders. When the crash happened, dozens
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of neighbors came out in protest, and so they tried
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to lie about this crash. They caused the crash. They
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lie about everything, just like the other women that they
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shot into her car, and they lied that she pointed
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a gun at them. She had a gun because she
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was a gun owner, but she never pointed at them, No,
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she never. It was still in its place. And then
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since the inception of border patrol, like they've been doing
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this just like no, yeah, as you would know if
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you've listened to our yeah three parts that you've done
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on this already, or if you've read you know, the
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books that you use as your sources. But yeah, this
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is again we're seeing it at a large scale. But
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this is who they are. They are not suddenly bad.
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They're not suddenly what's it called there, It's not because
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they're suddenly. This is who they have been. Use their inception, right.
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They were created with racism and violence in mind, because
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these were Texas white men who worked as Texas rangers,
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most of them beforehand. And even if they didn't, they
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grew up in this environment where it was normal to
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throw rocks at Mexican kids, to beat up Mexicans. And
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so this racism, this otherness, this dehumanization is embedded in
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them since the beginning, and they passed on this tradition
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of violence over the years, and they have never had
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what's the word oversight. They've never been held accountable. They
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have been allowed to be this way with impunity. And
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that is why things are the way that they are now. Yeah,
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as in the scene, but worse, the worse, Yeah, because
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this type of thing, it only gets worse until it's unchopped. Power, Yeah,
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just grows and grows. Right. Yeah, But more about this incident.
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I'm just gonna read this article really quick. So, federal
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agents chased a car through residential Yes, federal agents chased
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a car through a residential neighborhood on the southeast side
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of Chicago Tuesday morning. It was around eleven am. And
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then they intentionally crashed into the car and a risky
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maneuver restricted by police some police departments nationwide, they don't.
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They are like, police departments are not allowed to do this,
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but Bord Patrol is do.
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We din't.
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Well, the police wishes they could do what Bor Patrol's doing,
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you know, exactly exactly. Local security cameras caught this maneuver,
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which showed the car being hit by the Federal the
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Fed's vehicle, leading the occupants of the car to fall
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out while it was moving, so they ramed into it
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to tip it over. The occupants then fled on foot
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as agents ran behind. The commotion attracted and of course
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they in their report said they were responding to a
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crash and they were not. They caused the crowd. They yeah,
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they were the crash. They were right. So this commotion
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caused a crowd of neighborhood onlookers to come and they
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began to protest, and immediately they were met with smoke grenades,
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they were shot with pepper balls, and they were shot
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with at least three rounds of tear gas. Four protesters
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were detained and they hit a teenage girl in the
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head with a tear gas canister. Not clear if that
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was intentional or if that just happened when they fired
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off the canister. And yeah, this is just the latest
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incident of violent violent tactics that they have been utilizing
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and speaking of violence against uh uh huh children on
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the hands of Ice and Border Patrol. Have you heard
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that there's a thirteen year old being entertained in ICE
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detention center for like a few days. I saw that
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there was an autistic like middle schooler that had been
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taken by Ice. This the same one. I'm not sure
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I remember reading that he had autism. I'm looking at up. Okay,
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Chicago police tried to control the situation of protesters versus
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Border patrol basically, and they were also tear guest. Oh yeah,
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the two we saw in the picture, it was a
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fifteen year old and a nineteen year old. Okay, that's
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what I thought. They look so young. So I just
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looked up and this is from CNN. But yeah, this
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was in Boston and the mom said her thirteen year
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old son had been arrested. Oh no, sorry, not Boston ever,
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in Massachusetts, which is a suburb suburb of Boston. But
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she said that the police station called her and said
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that her son had been arrested and that she could
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come pick him up. But then she got there and
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waited over an hour, and then a police officer informed
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her that I came to take him away. And I'm like,
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how are they allowed to take children away without notifying
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their parents even interview them. You can't interview a child
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about their legal status. They're just doing things like it
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didn't matter anymore what's what's allowed and not allowed. And
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so they're from Brazil, this family, and they have been
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pending an asylum application since twenty twenty one. See, and
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when these things are pending, you're supposed to just be
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here until your case moves forward, either denied or approved.
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You just say, like, you can't be any action being
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taken against you. Yeah, yeah, you can't be degrationion wise, right,
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But they're just that's taking any laws at all speaking
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of though. So the fifteen year old and nineteen year
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olds are in the picture. They were slammed to the ground, handcuffed.
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One of them was like saying, my neck, my neck,
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because they just kept like pushing on. Was this were
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these o their necks.
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Boys.
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Yes, okay, they just did another girl that they also
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stepped on her neck and they're like doing that. They
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you know who taught them that? The ideaf. Yeah, that's
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where they get their training and they learned this tactic.
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But the fifteen year old, his mom rushed out from
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the house to figure out what happened, and they had
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already taken both of them. She said, quote they took
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my son. He was violated. They slammed him to the ground.
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I just want my baby back. And it turns out
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that they had been in custody several hours and were
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released without six year old is Hispanic and African American,
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and he was held in the garage for five hours
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without being able to inform his family. No charges were stated,
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No one allowed him to call an attorney. He is
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a US citizen. As this is an entire immediate family. Wow,
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And this is the thing they don't they don't care.
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And also the thing is too like they're the border
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Patrol and ICE, which were in the same essentially and
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like as a country, obviously people have always opposed Borbatral
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and ICE and unjust immigration policies, but as a nation,
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we have allowed the bor Patrol and ice to mystery, abuse, rape, harm,
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kill migrants, and when it's not directly, we have a
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lot of them to create such I don't know, blockades
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if you want to call it that at the border
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that migrants have been forced to go further and further out,
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like in in their routes into the country where they die.
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They die in the desert, they die in the water,
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they die of dehydration. And we have allowed them to
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treat immigrants this way and now it's it's extended citizens. Yeah,
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because we allowed other people what happened, we saw that
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were better than and more value, are more value than
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to be treated like this. And then now like this
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is why it doesn't it doesn't like like it's not
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worthing would they treat how would they treat their most
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vulnerable n I hate that word vulnerable. So, uh, migrant communities,
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working class prisoners, black people, yes, like and yeah, it's
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exactly like you're saying, like this has been going on
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for decades on a specific group and now that's being
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extended and and right now it's still just being extended
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towards people that look like me and you. Yeah, but
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soon enough that it's going to change. Well, they already
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attacked a black community, which we didn't. I don't think
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we talked to them, or we talked about it briefly.
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And of course there are also black migrants, right, yes,
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and black Latinos, but as a whole. Right people think
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of immigrants as Latinos and they don't think of black
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people as Latinos, but we know that's not true. But
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they basically they came down from helicopters and I don't
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know what the word is, repelled into apartment building that
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is mostly of black people live in and it was
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in the middle of a night. They broke in through windows.
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They uh forced the people out of their apartments. They
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zip tied everybody, including children. They didn't allow children to
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dress up, and weather perfect closed. It was freezing that night.
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Well I don't know if like literally freezing, but it
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was cold. They were naked. They took them out there
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like naked, is what I've heard. This happened in October third,
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I want to say, And last week I think I
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saw that there's still some missing children from this, from
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that raid or whatever you know they're calling it. Yeah,
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adults and children alike were pulled from their Chicago apartments,
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crying and screaming during a large overnight raid that has
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left tenants and neighbor neighbors shaken. Someone that lives there.
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This is from CNN said quote, I've been on military
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basis for a good portion of my life, and the
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activity I saw it was an invasion essentially. Yeah, and
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you know who also sat the idef to Palestinian homes
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because they just steal homes from Palestinians. But I saw
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an interview of an older black gentleman who talked about this.
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I actually don't know if it was there or it
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was another It might have been there, but he so
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he was talking about he was going he earlier that day,
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he had gone down to like the public assistant office,
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and so he had his bag already, like cause you know,
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